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Old December 02, 2009, 02:22 PM
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Hit = golpear.

La última frase todavía no suena natural, pero no sé como rectificarlo en una sola frase. La mejor idea que tengo actualmente sería:

Damn diabetes. I hate it.
Yes your example sound very well, thank you for your support.


Damn diabetes, I hate it, I never will know.

Why my soon got it in the childhood.
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Old December 03, 2009, 01:53 AM
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I don't have words for you, Crotalito. I don't think there are words for such situation . But there are many people with this illness and I think they can do a normal life with medical treatment. The important thing is his quality of life, you must give him the best.

A kiss for your son.
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Old December 03, 2009, 08:37 AM
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Let me ask you about two things:
1) Negación vs. denegación ... the prefix makes it sound like they should be opposites. But their definitions make it sound like they're very similar in meaning. What does the prefix "de-" mean?
I think you should be very careful in thinking that de- will mean an opposite. Sometimes it does, but usually does not, and this applies in English as well. It comes from Latin de, but takes on different meanings: of, from, away, thoroughly, completely

Examples:
Negación vs. denegación (de not opposite)
Decapitate, decapitar: de = from, away from
Deliberate, deliberar: de = completely, + librare to weigh
Derretir: de = completely + (obsolete) retir to melt
Demented, demente: de = without + mens mind
Demandar: de = completely + mandare to entrust
Demorar: de = completely + morari to delay

This is different to dis- des- which can mean opposite or not (unless from Greek dys- = bad)

Examples:
dis-gustar
des-baratar
des-ayunar
des-calzo

I find as a rule, it is best not to guess that de- as a prefix might mean something. Perhaps someone else can give better advice.
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Old December 03, 2009, 08:55 AM
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I think you should be very careful in thinking that de- will mean an opposite. Sometimes it does, but usually does not, and this applies in English as well. It comes from Latin de, but takes on different meanings: of, from, away, thoroughly, completely

Examples:
Negación vs. denegación (de not opposite)
Decapitate, decapitar: de = from, away from
Deliberate, deliberar: de = completely, + librare to weigh
Derretir: de = completely + (obsolete) retir to melt
Demented, demente: de = without + mens mind
Demandar: de = completely + mandare to entrust
Demorar: de = completely + morari to delay

This is different to dis- des- which can mean opposite or not (unless from Greek dys- = bad)

Examples:
dis-gustar
des-baratar
des-ayunar
des-calzo

I find as a rule, it is best not to guess that de- as a prefix might mean something. Perhaps someone else can give better advice.
Ooooohh!!!!!!!!! VERY helpful!! I'm going to print this and remember it. THANK YOU!!!
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Old December 03, 2009, 10:18 AM
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Ooooohh!!!!!!!!! VERY helpful!! I'm going to print this and remember it. THANK YOU!!!
You are welcome, but perhaps you should wait and see whether pjt or anyone else has something to add - they may disagree!
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Old December 03, 2009, 11:58 AM
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I don't have words for you, Crotalito. I don't think there are words for such situation . But there are many people with this illness and I think they can do a normal life with medical treatment. The important thing is his quality of life, you must give him the best.

A kiss for your son.
Thank you for your animus.
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[...]
Ayer en Virginia, empeció empezó una denegación prohibición nueva contra fumando los fumadores en los restaurantes.

It can be said like: "...una prohibición de fumar en los restaurantes."


En las matemáticas, es importante a saber cómo hacer una negación de una frase.
"Denegación" is not that common.

Me denegaron el permiso que solicité para abrir un negocio.
I was denied the permit to open a new business.

A common one from computers:
Access denied.
Acceso denegado.

Juan solicitó una licencia de matrimonio, pero encontraron que tiene otra esposa y se la denegaron.
Juan requested a marriage licence, but they found he had another wife and it was denied.
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"Denegación" is not that common.

Me denegaron el permiso que solicité para abrir un negocio.
I was denied the permit to open a new business.

A common one from computers:
Access denied.
Acceso denegado.

Juan solicitó una licencia de matrimonio, pero encontraron que tiene otra esposa y se la denegaron.
Juan requested a marriage licence, but they found he had another wife and it was denied.
The interesting thing about your examples is that "denegación" is not used as a noun. That what I was going for. But since you say it's not too common, then I'd just use other, synonymous words instead. THANKS!
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