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Old January 07, 2011, 02:38 AM
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What does forfait mean in this sentence?

When Philip II abandoned John's cause, declared his French lands forfeit.

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Old January 07, 2011, 05:10 AM
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What does forfait mean in this sentence?

When Philip II abandoned John's cause, declared his French lands forfeit.

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A forfeit is something you lose as a penalty for a crime. So somebody's lands were confiscated as a punishment for being disloyal. (Your sentence does not quite make sense).

It can also be used in a more trivial sense: A prisoner forfeits the right to vote in an election (i.e. as a further punishment, a right to vote is removed from him)

And also in cards games. In some games, if you lose, you forfeit something - usually an item of clothing
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Old January 07, 2011, 05:18 AM
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What does forfait mean in this sentence?

When Philip II abandoned John's cause, declared his French lands forfeit.

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Well, what you wrote above is not actually a complete sentence. It is grammatically incorrect, so hopefully the book includes a noun for the sentence.

Anyway, forfeit in this case means lost as a penalty of some action.

The other common use is in sports as a verb.
"The team had to forfeit the game because they only had 3 players."
In this sense, they had to give up the victory and lost the game as a penalty for not meeting the rules of the game.

Hope that helps.
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Old January 07, 2011, 08:28 AM
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What does forfait mean in this sentence?

When Philip II abandoned John's cause, declared his French lands forfeit.

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forfeit as a verb = ceder/abandonar los derechos a/de algo.

forfeit as a noun = pena/penalidad
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Old January 07, 2011, 12:37 PM
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I'll write the complet sentence:

Problems arose when Philip A. abandoned John's cause and, as his feudal overlord, declared his French lands forfeit.

Abandoned, maybe?
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I'll write the complet sentence:

Problems arose when Philip A. abandoned John's cause and, as his feudal overlord, declared his French lands forfeit.

Abandoned, maybe?
No - confiscated.
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Old January 09, 2011, 12:22 PM
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Confiscated! Thank you!
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