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Quizá hasta connacionales

Ciudadanos supuestamente nicaragüenses, cubanos, venezolanos y quizá hasta connacionales se han dedicado a atentar en contra de diferentes instituciones y comercios con la única finalidad de provocar inestabilidad en la sociedad.

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Old July 05, 2009, 03:49 PM
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This is wrong; see below.

I believe connacionales means expatriates. In other words, someone who doesn't live in their country of birth, or the country where they are citizens. En este contexto, connacionales se referiría a nicaragüenses, cubanos y venezolanos que no viven en Nicaragua, Cuba y Venezuela, respectivamente.
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Ciudadanos supuestamente nicaragüenses, cubanos, venezolanos y quizá hasta connacionales se han dedicado a atentar en contra de diferentes instituciones y comercios con la única finalidad de provocar inestabilidad en la sociedad.

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I suggest something along these lines. Where are these people? In Latin America or USA? Are these "connacionales" US citizens or legal immigrants?

Supposed citizens of Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, Mexico and perhaps even real (indigenous) citizens have decided to commit attacks against different institutions and businesses with the sole purpose of provoking instability in society.
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Thanks for your help! A few quick questions...

This is from an article at laprensa.hn so if connacionales means indigenous people then they're talking about Hondurans but I suppose if it means expatriates they're referring to people from different countries besides the ones already mentioned, right?

The main part that tripped me up was the quizá hasta...so this just always means perhaps even?
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The main part that tripped me up was the quizá hasta...so this just always means perhaps even?
Yes, that's right.

The following is wrong; see below.

As for the original question, I think it just means "...Nicaraguans, Cubans, Venezuelans, and even people from other countries...".
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Ciudadanos supuestamente nicaragüenses, cubanos, venezolanos y quizá hasta connacionales se han dedicado a atentar en contra de diferentes instituciones y comercios con la única finalidad de provocar inestabilidad en la sociedad.

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'Connacionales' means from the same country. A clearer sentence, as an example:

En España estudian mejicanos, argentinos, ..., hasta connacionales (= hasta españoles)
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Irmamar is right. The nationality of "connacionales" depends on where that article was written, but it refers to people who share nationality with us. That would mean that not only foreigners are causing instability, but also nationals.
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Irmamar is right. The nationality of "connacionales" depends on where that article was written, but it refers to people who share nationality with us. That would mean that not only foreigners are causing instability, but also nationals.
I'm sorry I wrote "mejicanos" instead of "mexicanos" (I didn't realize until now). Usually in Spain we write mejicanos because this is the way we pronounce this word. I'm sorry, I try to write mexicanos here, because you prefer this way
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Thanks for correcting me. I was wrong in my two posts.
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@Irmamar: A los mexicanos nos gusta la "x", pero sé que en España se usa con "j".

"...porque escribes tu nombre con la equis, que algo tiene de cruz y de calvario..."


@David: No es una palabra frecuente y el contexto era un poco equívoco si no la has visto antes.
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