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To make things more confusing. A Mexican one told me he was from the Estados Unidos de Mexico.
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To make things more confusing. A Mexican one told me he was from the Estados Unidos de Mexico.
Yes, the official name is Estados Unidos Mexicanos, not México.
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@Hernán: ¡eres un provocador profesional!

I can't have an opinion on personal choices. Having the citizenship of the country where you're living is to me a natural alternative.

Talking about the "gentilicio" itself, Rusty has stated a very objective linguistic point of view, which I subscribe to on principle. Personally, I have always preferred "estadounidense" and "US American", but I'm not prejudiced against someone else using "americano" and "American".
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@Hernán: ¡eres un provocador profesional!

I can't have an opinion on personal choices. Having the citizenship of the country where you're living is to me a natural alternative.

Talking about the "gentilicio" itself, Rusty has stated a very objective linguistic point of view, which I subscribe to on principle. Personally, I have always preferred "estadounidense" and "US American", but I'm not prejudiced against someone else using "americano" and "American".
First of all - I totally agree with your first statement!!

Second - isn't it interesting that he refuses to comment until YOU have commented. Must be nice to be Angelica these days....
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Aha!

Let me state that I am not un provocador profesional!

Amateur, YES

Ok, David nailed it to the ground, as a reply to Poli.


Estados Unidos Mexicanos. (or as one might surmise "Estados Unidos de Mexico")

Estados Unidos de America.

One is referred as Mexico, therefore the other has to be referred as America.

If anybody that lives in the Americas, calls him/herself american, it is rightly so, referring to the continent(s). Usually as North American, Central American or South American.

Brazil's, up until sometime in the 60's, name was Estados Unidos de Brazil, and was referred to, as Brazil.

Canada, Mexico and the USA, are all in North America, then they can all be called Norteamericanos. USA and Mexico could be both called Estado Unidenses along with Brazil.

Me extraña Angelica que siendo mejicana no hubieras visto esto venir.

All the comments were excellent! Thanks.

I hope nobody is mad at me. Just wanted to elicit some comments, which I got. I myself would get very upset when an American would say that he was an American and that i was Chilean.

I guess American people do not pay much attention to that instead of trying to not hurt people's feelings...

What say you?
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Aha!

Let me state that I am not un provocador profesional!

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¿De veras?


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Estados Unidos Mexicanos. [...]

Me extraña Angelica que siendo meXicana no hubieras visto esto venir.

[...]
Jaja... mis preferencias históricas interfirieron con tus "malas intenciones". En general siempre pienso en "República Mexicana", no en el nombre oficial.

In any case, I never take part in the debate of how American is any American.


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¿De veras?




Jaja... mis preferencias históricas interfirieron con tus "malas intenciones". En general siempre pienso en "República Mexicana", no en el nombre oficial.

In any case, I never take part in the debate of how American is any American.



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Yes, she is!

I like to teach American people, because they are more daring, even though they present themselves with the same insecurities as anybody else, but they tend to quelch them and plow ahead!
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@Lou Ann: And you're learning fast.
Thanks!!

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Yes, she is!

I like to teach American people, because they are more daring, even though they present themselves with the same insecurities as anybody else, but they tend to quelch them and plow ahead!
You guys ARE talking about my learning Spanish fast, right? Or do you mean that I'm learning y'all's personalities fast? Hmmm.... Well, Thank you................

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I hope nobody is mad at me. Just wanted to elicit some comments, which I got. I myself would get very upset when an American would say that he was an American and that i was Chilean.

I guess American people do not pay much attention to that instead of trying to not hurt people's feelings...

What say you?
I am sometimes annoyed with the arrogance that many (most?) USAmerican's have. I guess that many people around the world are very proud of their own nations/nationalities. But for some reason, American pride sometimes seems to come off "different" in a way that I cannot put my finger upon. I don't think that the actual incidence of the use of "American" to mean "US Citizen" is what bothers me, but that we never developed our own "name" for our country. As if we needed one.... It really does come down to not hurting feelings... Do many USAmericans even care?

Anyway - you would have a difficult time making me angry because you have so quickly endeared yourself to me (and I'm sure to others). It's good to hear you discuss something so close to your heart.
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You guys ARE talking about my learning Spanish fast, right? Or do you mean that I'm learning y'all's personalities fast? Hmmm.... Well, Thank you................
What's this, psychology I???



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I am sometimes annoyed with the arrogance that many (most?) USAmerican's have. I guess that many people around the world are very proud of their own nations/nationalities. But for some reason, American pride sometimes seems to come off "different" in a way that I cannot put my finger upon. I don't think that the actual incidence of the use of "American" to mean "US Citizen" is what bothers me, but that we never developed our own "name" for our country. As if we needed one.... It really does come down to not hurting feelings... Do many USAmericans even care?

Anyway - you would have a difficult time making me angry because you have so quickly endeared yourself to me (and I'm sure to others). It's good to hear you discuss something so close to your heart.
Ah, thanks. And yes, I guess every country has its "idiotsyncracy"
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