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Old June 13, 2012, 10:51 PM
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Purity of a blood line

Below is a paragraph that I want to make sure I have translated the proper context of the “message”. The paragraph deals with assurances to the public that the family in question hails from a pure Christian line and is not converts from Judaism or Islam. This concern was prevalent among the early Spanish settlers in Nueva España. Below is the original followed by my translation:

El 6 de septiembre de 1666 hizo levantar en Guadalajara información genealógica de limpieza de sangre, vida y costumbres, en que se asienta que su padre “Lázaro Martin del Campo es habido y tenido par tal cristiano viejo, hombre Noble, de limpio linaje, y en est atención ha obtenido diferentes veces el oficio de Alcade Ordinario en la Vill de los Lagos; siendo, el tiempo que vivió en ella, uno de los vecinos de más porte y autoridad” Y se asentó sucesivamente que el Bachiller promovente fue graduado en Filosofía en la Real Universidad de Jéjico. Uno de los testigos señaló que “ha visto papeles y ejecutorias por donde consta baber sido los susodichos cristianos viejos y limpios de toda mal raza; antes sí (...) gente noble, habidos y tenidos por tales”


On September 6, 1666 in Guadalajara the son created genealogy information on the purity of blood, life and customs, which asserts that his father "Lázaro Martin del Campo is and has been such an old Christian, noble gentleman, of pure lineage, and this has gain the attention, various times, by the office of Mayor Ordinary in Vill (?) de los Lagos (Village of the Lakes ?), as long as he been one of the more poised and authoritative neighbor." And it was settled several times, that the supplicant was a graduated Bachelor of Philosophy at the Royal University of Mexico. One witness stated that they had "seen papers and (my translation drops of here to continue as) people noble, had and taken by such"
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Old June 14, 2012, 12:23 AM
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El 6 de septiembre de 1666 hizo levantar en Guadalajara información genealógica de limpieza de sangre, vida y costumbres, en que se asienta que su padre “Lázaro Martin del Campo es habido y tenido por tal cristiano viejo, hombre Noble, de limpio linaje, y en esta atención ha obtenido diferentes veces el oficio de Alcade Ordinario en la Villa de los Lagos; siendo, el tiempo que vivió en ella, uno de los vecinos de más porte y autoridad”. Y se asentó sucesivamente que el Bachiller promovente fue graduado en Filosofía en la Real Universidad de Méjico. Uno de los testigos señaló que “ha visto papeles y ejecutorias por donde consta haber sido los susodichos cristianos viejos y limpios de toda mal raza; antes sí (...) gente noble, habidos y tenidos por tales”


On September 6, 1666, genealogical information gathered in Guadalajara about purity of blood, life and customs, asserts that his father "Lázaro Martin del Campo is acknowledged as an old Christian, a nobleman, of pure lineage, and as such, obtained the office of Mayor various times in Villa de los Lagos (Village of the Lakes), being, at the time he lived in the village, one of the more poised and authoritative neighbors". And it was asserted several times that the promoter was a graduated Bachelor of Philosophy at the Royal University of Mexico. One of the witnesses stated that he has "seen papers and (judgments showing them to have been the aforementioned old christians and free of all ill race ...) noble people, acknowledged as such"
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"habido y tenido por X" is something like "held and recognized as a X" meaning the person is acknowledged as X and has prestige or standing for that.
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Old June 14, 2012, 10:24 PM
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Thank you for your help and insight.

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