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Old August 20, 2009, 01:32 AM
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Actually, Hernan, I have been watching my favorite movies with BOTH the Spanish voice-overs AND the subtitles. The subtitles help ... and I consider it a victory when I notice that there's a difference between the words in the voice-over and the subtitles and can understand the meanings and differences between them both.....

I know it is exciting, however you delay your advancing.... hmmm oxymoron?
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I know it is exciting, however you delay your advancing.... hmmm oxymoron?
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No, I would have to say that it doesn't (for now). Maybe later it will. What delays my advancing is when I try to listen to the movie without the subtitles and don't understand even one word of the spoken Spanish. But the second I turn on the subtitles, I understand much of both (subtitles and spoken words). I'm not saying this will be something that I will do for the rest of the time that I work at learning Spanish. It's simply helpful for now.....
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Old August 20, 2009, 09:33 AM
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No, I would have to say that it doesn't (for now). Maybe later it will. What delays my advancing is when I try to listen to the movie without the subtitles and don't understand even one word of the spoken Spanish. But the second I turn on the subtitles, I understand much of both (subtitles and spoken words). I'm not saying this will be something that I will do for the rest of the time that I work at learning Spanish. It's simply helpful for now.....
I know also you do not believe it is holding you up... I just try to give you what I know.

This brings to my mind one of the most powerful sayings in English.

"You can lead the horse to water... "
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Old August 20, 2009, 09:41 AM
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Are you calling me a horse!!??

Seriously, I know that eventually (sooner rather than later) it will be GOOD for me to NOT use the subtitles! But I'm only just beginning the process of using Spanish versions of movies, and I was startled at how LITTLE I understood (when using only Spanish voice overs) of a movie with which I'm VERY familiar....
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Old August 20, 2009, 10:54 AM
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Are you calling me a horse!!??

Seriously, I know that eventually (sooner rather than later) it will be GOOD for me to NOT use the subtitles! But I'm only just beginning the process of using Spanish versions of movies, and I was startled at how LITTLE I understood (when using only Spanish voice overs) of a movie with which I'm VERY familiar....
So much for "total immersion" uh?

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Old August 20, 2009, 11:18 AM
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If I wanted "total immersion", I'd need to move to Uruguay..... I would LOVE to move to Uruguay...... but it's not very likely any time soon...........
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Laepelba quizás te dar algo consejo, trata de mirar las noticias, y tiempo (weather) porque ya vas a saber el sujeto de lo que hablan. entiendo más de las noticias que las películas (lo que son más interesantes por supuesto) porque es fácil para entenderlas/seguirlas (follow them)
Espero que te ayude mucho porque sé cómo difícil que puede ser para nosotros
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Laepelba quisiera darte (algun) consejo. Tratas de mirar a las noticias y tiempo (weather) en español porque ya vas a conocer el sujeto de que hablan. Entiendo más de las noticias que las películas (lo que son más interesantes por supuesto) porque es fácil para entenderlas/seguirlas (follow them)
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"The spoken word" is a frequently used English expression, but it does not have a direct equivalent in colloquial Spanish, however I would be inclined to say that -la palabra dicha- would be a closer approximation for it.
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