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Old January 08, 2010, 09:10 AM
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¿^"Tax over the poor" es lo que dices?
I've noticed that a tax is always 'sobre' something: impuesto sobre la renta / impuesto sobre el valor / impuesto sobre el valor añido etc., although this describes the kind of tax, not who is paying it.
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Old January 08, 2010, 09:11 AM
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I was trying to say that in English we say that "the lottery is the poor man's tax".
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Old January 08, 2010, 09:29 AM
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I was trying to say that in English we say that "the lottery is the poor man's tax".
Yes, what you meant was quite clear. What you said was possibly grammatically correct in Spanish, I was just questioning the preposition, but you may be right. I don't think Bob liked the sentence.
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Old January 08, 2010, 09:58 AM
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Yes, what you meant was quite clear. What you said was possibly grammatically correct in Spanish, I was just questioning the preposition, but you may be right. I don't think Bob liked the sentence.
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La lotería es una cosa más vil porque es un impuesto para los pobres...
No, eso es el IVA. La lotería es un impuesto sobre la falta de formación en estadística y probabilidad.
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No, eso es el IVA. La lotería es un impuesto sobre la falta de formación en estadística y probabilidad.
No hay nadie que juegue la lotería que supe de los probabilidades de ganar, porque ellos que lo saben no jugar
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No, eso es el IVA. La lotería es un impuesto sobre la falta de formación en estadística y probabilidad.
No hay nadie que juegue la lotería que supe de los probabilidades de ganar, porque ellos que lo entienden no jugar
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laepelba is correct, although the phrase should be:

La lotería es la cosa más vil, es un impuesto para los pobres.

In this case it would mean that it is imposed to the poor people, so they can get out of poverty and is like IVA but self-imposed.
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Un impuesto para/a los pobres (a tax for the poor) -> Un impuesto que pagan los pobres (the poor pay this tax)

Un impuesto sobre los pobres (a tax on the poor) -> Un impuesto que se pagaría de acuerdo al número de pobres (people would pay this tax because there are poor people)
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Huh? What did you mean there, Bob?

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laepelba is correct, although the phrase should be:

La lotería es la cosa más vil, es un impuesto para los pobres.

In this case it would mean that it is imposed to the poor people, so they can get out of poverty and is like IVA but self-imposed.
So, the last part of the sentence, which I thought was the most difficult to come up with, was correct? I suppose that it wasn't my intention to imply that it's imposed, but that it's a natural progression of the lottery. Yes, I guess self-imposed.

Is "impuesto" the correct word for "tax" here? I saw a LOT of nouns for "tax" in the dictionary, and wasn't quite sure which was appropriate here....
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