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Old July 24, 2024, 09:25 PM
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I have heard "to miss" said as "perder" in many instances; for example:

Lamento haber perdido tu llamada.

Lamento haber perdido la oportunidad.

But I have also heard "perderse" used in other instances; for example:

Lamento haberme perdido la fiesta.

Lamento haberme perdido la conferencia.

I know there are other ways to convey the verb "to miss," but if I use a form of "perder," which is the first verb that comes to my mind, when is perder used and when is perderse used?

I'm already familiar with: No te lo pierdas, meaning to miss out on something, so that concept is not a problem.

Explanations and examples are appreciated.
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Old July 24, 2024, 11:34 PM
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I think I'll need someone to give you a better answer here, but I'll give it a try:

When the idea of "miss" is that you weren't able to take advantage of something, to profit of something, you need the pronominal form:
- Me perdí la fiesta.
- Te perdiste de lo mejor de la película por ir a comprar palomitas.
- No sabes de lo que te pierdes por no salir a bailar con nosotros.
- ¿No conoces la música de Peso Pluma? No te preocupes, no te has perdido de mucho.

Trying to find more examples, I think a vehicle and a chance to do something are the only times when we don't use the pronominal.
- Perdí el autobús.
- No pierdas esta oportunidad.
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Old July 25, 2024, 08:30 AM
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If you miss somebody, you can use the verb extrañar. te extraño mucho. I miss you a lot. In that case perder doesn't work.
I think that faltar can also mean to miss in certain circumstances. Me parece que el anillo falta un diamante
It seems to me that the ring is missing a diamond. You could use perder here too, but the meaning is slightly different.
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Old July 25, 2024, 03:25 PM
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Thank you.

Knowing that a vehicle and a chance to do something are about the only times when the pronominal is not used really helps.
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Old July 25, 2024, 09:53 PM
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@Poli: You're right. "Faltar" is a possible translation in some contexts too.

@Bobbert: I still can't think of any other examples.
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I vaguely remember that one can say te extraño mucho in some other way, without the use of extrañar. Unfortunately, I can't remember how
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@Tyrn: Perhaps you were thinking about «Te echo mucho de menos».
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Old August 07, 2024, 01:03 PM
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That's it, thanks! Mucho isn't mandatory, so far as I remember...
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Old August 07, 2024, 09:02 PM
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Not mandatory, but makes it credible.
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