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Old January 04, 2010, 05:28 PM
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Hernán - let me ask you about the last sentence. As you know, I haven't really gotten into using the subjunctive yet. I thought that if I wanted to say "I look forward to learning many synonyms in Spanish" it would be subjunctive. Why not?
I cannot think of a phrase in subjunctive right now.

Now, please follow me with this one and see what happens. ok? :-)

Is the phrase "I look forward to learning many synonyms in Spanish" in any way in past tense? Also, could you please rephrase that but keep it in the same tense as the original? Please post.
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Old January 04, 2010, 05:40 PM
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Okay, so I thought that "esperar" typically preceded a subjunctive conjugation. Apparently I'm wrong.

SOOoooooo, to follow you ... I originally wrote "Espero a aprenda muchos sinónimos en español.... " I originally meant "I look forward to learning many synonyms in Spanish....."

That phrase is not past tense in any way in either iteration, right? ??? I thought that both ways were in the same tense.....

Espero - I hope
a aprenda - to learn
muchos sinónimos en español.... - many synonyms in Spanish.....

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Old January 04, 2010, 05:44 PM
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If there is no change in subject, the infinitive is used.

I hope to learn = espero aprender
I hope you learn = espero que aprendas
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Old January 04, 2010, 05:47 PM
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If there is no change in subject, the infinitive is used.

I hope to learn = espero aprender
I hope you learn = espero que aprendas
OH!!!!!!!!!!!! I had NO idea. That makes so much sense. I really need to study the subjunctive. Maybe I ought to master preterite and imperfect, first........
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Old January 04, 2010, 05:48 PM
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Okay, so I thought that "esperar" typically preceded a subjunctive conjugation. Apparently I'm wrong.

SOOoooooo, to follow you ... I originally wrote "Espero a aprenda muchos sinónimos en español.... " I originally meant "I look forward to learning many synonyms in Spanish....."

That phrase is not past tense in any way in either iteration, right? ??? I thought that both ways were in the same tense.....

Espero - I hope
a aprenda - to learn = aprender - a aprender
muchos sinónimos en español.... - many synonyms in Spanish.....

???
ok ok...

Espero aprender muchos sinónimos en español pronto. I hope to learn many synonyms in Spanish soon

Espero que (usted) aprenda muchos sinónimos en español pronto. I hope you learn many synonyms in Spanish soon.

Espera a que yo aprenda muchos sinónimos en español. Wait until I learn many synonyms in Spanish.

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Old January 04, 2010, 05:51 PM
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ok ok...

Espero aprender muchos sinónimos en español pronto. I hope to learn many synonyms in Spanish soon

Espero que (usted) aprenda muchos sinónimos en español pronto. I hope you learn many synonyms in Spanish soon.

Espera a que yo aprenda muchos sinónimos en español. Wait until I learn many synonyms in Spanish.
All of which completely jives with what Rusty said (cross posting?) Making more sense to me day by day. I really need to start working with the subjunctive!
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ok ok...

Espero aprender muchos sinónimos en español pronto. I hope to learn many synonyms in Spanish soon

Espero que (usted) aprenda muchos sinónimos en español pronto. I hope you learn many synonyms in Spanish soon.

Espera a que yo aprenda muchos sinónimos en español. Wait until I learn many synonyms in Spanish.
Chileno me confundes con el "a" ahí, ¿por favor puedes explicámelo?
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Chileno me confundes con el "a" ahí, ¿por favor puedes explicámelo?
My dictionary gives

esperar a + inf = to wait for

espera a estar seguro antes de hablar con ella
wait until you're sure before you speak to her

esperar (a) + subj = to wait for (change of subject)

el profesor esperó (a) que hubiera silencio
the teacher waited for them to be quiet

So it looks as if the a is optional, but to me seems to differentiate between esperar = hope (esperar + inf. or que + subj.) and esperar = wait for..

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Esperar a = wait for

Espero a Juan.
Espero a que acabe de llover para salir a pasear.

Esperar = hope

Espero que estés bien.
Espero aprobar el examen.

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My dictionary gives

esperar a + inf = to wait for

espera a estar seguro antes de hablar con ella
wait until you're sure before you speak to her

esperar (a) + subj = to wait for (change of subject)

el profesor esperó (a) que hubiera silencio
the teacher waited for them to be quiet

So it looks as if the a is optional, but to me seems to differentiate between esperar = hope (esperar + inf. or que + subj.) and esperar = wait for..

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Esperar a = wait for

Espero a Juan.
Espero a que acabe de llover para salir a pasear.

Esperar = hope

Espero que estés bien.
Espero aprobar el examen.
Todos ejemplos entiendo, como espero a jugar el fútbol, ect, ¿pero "espero a que" es en lo cierto también?
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