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Old August 17, 2020, 03:23 AM
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¿Existen los verbos pronominales?

Quiero saber si existen los verbos pronominales o solo son verbos transitivos con un pronombre de objeto utilizado con ellos. O sea, les echemos un vistazo a los ejemplos siguientes.

Verbo transitivo conjugado - veo

Objeto directo - me

Oración - Me veo bien.

En esta construction, se dice que se usa un verbo pronominal, pero me parece que tal verbo no existe, o sea, cualquier verbo transitivo puede convertirse en un verbo pronominal, es decir, los verbos pronominales no existen.

¿Estoy en lo correcto?
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Old August 17, 2020, 10:12 AM
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Te digo que sí, existen los verbos pronominales. Los diccionarios que consulto los incluyen como aportes distintos, acompañados con la abreviatura 'v prnl'.

Así se define:
verbo pronominal
1. m. Gram. verbo que se construye en todas sus formas con pronombres reflexivos átonos que no desempeñan ninguna función sintáctica y que concuerdan con el sujeto; p. ej., me arrepentí, se levantó.


En el caso que nos diste, el verbo en questión no es ver, sino verse (el verbo pronominal). No tiene objeto. La conjugación 'me veo' significa 'I find/imagine myself fine/doing well' or 'I see myself as doing well'. El sujeto no se ve, se da a entender como se siente.

En el caso del verbo arrepentirse, ¡no existe forma no pronominal!

Si el sufijo -se tiene por fin cambiar el significado del verbo o indicar que la acción afecta directamente al sujeto, es verbo pronominal.
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Old August 18, 2020, 06:34 AM
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Pero si digo, "Me veo en el espejo, "¿no se convierte en un verbo pronominal con valor reflexivo?

También, ¿hay diferentes tipos de verbos pronominales, o sólo uno?

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Hay solo un tipo de verbo pronominal, los que se encuentra en el diccionario con el sufijo -se. But, you can use a verb reflexively, reciprocally, or in a way that augments its meaning by using a reflexive pronoun. These last constructions are technically called pronominal verbs, but the basic meaning of the verb is not changed.

The assertion in your original post was that pronominal verbs don't exist. They do.

If you look at a good dictionary, you'll find pronominal verbs. You should be able to find both levantar and levantarse listed in that dictionary. They don't mean the same thing at all.
You should also be able to find ver and verse, because they have different meanings.
The second entry in each set is a verbo pronominal (abbreviated v. prnl.).

Have a look at what the RAE lists if you search for ver.
It gives fifteen transitive (tr.) meanings, one intransitive meaning, and six pronominal meanings. Notice that the pronominal form doesn't mean the same thing as the non-pronominal form.

Según lo que dice el diccionario, la frase "Me veo en el espejo" puede significar "I see myself in the mirror" o "I imagine myself in the mirror." En el primer caso, la frase contiene un verbo reflexivo (el ver en vez del verbo pronominal verse). La construcción consiste en un pronombre que desempeña una función sintáctica; tiene valor. Seeing oneself is communicated with ver, plus a reflexive pronoun. You are indicated as the direct object.
En otro lado, el verbo pronominal consta de un pronombre reflexivo que no desempeña una función sintáctica. No tiene valor; forma parte de la idea, o el significado, del verbo. Finding oneself in a situation is communicated with verse. The reflexive pronoun serves no real function. It isn't a direct object.

There are pronominal verbs that have no non-pronominal form whatsoever. So, pronominal verbs do exist. They will always have a reflexive pronoun and it will never have a syntactical function (it will never represent a direct object).

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