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Old September 09, 2009, 08:29 AM
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but carne is meat (beef) .
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I've never heard carne rojo, but I have come across situations where carne was ambiguous between meat or beef.



But here, you've both done what I'm talking about. I guess that I'm more curious about Spanish-speakers using the word "meat" in English than anything. When I say "meat", I truly mean ANYTHING that used to be breathing - beef, chicken, pork, lamb, fish, shellfish, etc. "Meat" is all-inclusive.

PJT's fault!

But seriously. Carne means beef

Sometimes, when there is a need to differentiate we say carne de cerdo as opposed to carne de vaca.

carne roja no se usa, pero si la del pollo o pavo que pueden ser blanca o magra. (lean) y oscura (not (so) lean)
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Old September 09, 2009, 08:38 AM
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Thanks for clarifying. (All of you!) I really thought it was strange when I heard it on that podcast. It's interesting - because the man who does the majority of the teaching on the podcast is obviously very knowledgeable with Spain-Spanish, but is not a native speaker. I figure that sometimes things might be only very slightly less than accurate...
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I'm still not sure of what I'm being accused.
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Para mi "carne roja" esta bien chileno, sé que no es tan usada, pero no deja de parecerme algo muy normal más que nada en escritura.
Igual sigo defendiendo que, al no haber otra palabra que englobe todos los tipos de carnes(meat), decirle carne a la carne de vaca me parece mal. Aunque lo use el 99% de la población. Se genera confusión todo el tiempo -entre nativos- de esta manera. Si digo que no como carne y me preguntan si quiero pollo me parece ignorancia. (que no quiere decir que este mal)
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"Carne roja" es un término que usan los médicos para prohibir lo que uno no debe comer.

"Carne", in it's standard definition, is the meat of four-legged animals like cow, pig, lamb, goat (in some places horse), venison, rabbit, etc. And it also includes farmyard birds (aves de corral) like chicken and turkey, as well as hunted ones like pheasant, quail, duck....
Fish, shellfish or insects are not regularly considered "carne", except fish, when it's included, together with birds, in the category of "carne blanca".
(Although there was a funny advertising about ostrich meat as "la única carne roja sin colesterol".)

In common speech, people frequently mark a difference between "carne" (the one that walks on four legs), "pollo" (the one with feathers) and "pescado" (the one that swims).
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Funny ... in English, "red meat" is beef, venison, lamb, etc. "White meat" is pork, chicken, turkey, other fowl, etc. I honestly don't know if there are people who would consider fish & seafood to be "white meat", but I don't necessarily put them together. Hmmm....
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Estoy hecho de carne y hueso. I'm made of flesh and bones.
El significado de carne no cambia mucho entre idiomas. Los tejidos de los animales es carne--todos los animales. Además se puede usar carne figuradadamente. La carne del durasno (melocotón) es su pulpa.
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First of all, carne = meat, just like in English. If you're talking about a chicken, you can say "la carne de pollo", for example. But in real life, and especially when talking about food, the term "carne" implies beef (at least in Mexico). To a lesser degree "carne" can imply pork or lamb. In common usage (in Mexico), "carne" would not be used to refer to chicken, which would be pollo.
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El significado de carne no cambia mucho entre idiomas.
Pero cuidado con el inglés antiguo, porque hace tres o cuatro siglos "meat" quería decir "comida" en general.
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It's as could to be cataloged in Mexico red meat and white meat, I mean Carne roja this meat include Carne de red, y cerdo, and the white meat include Pollo and fish too.
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