Pareciera que se dan cuenta....

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by chileno

Me parece que yo lo tomo así:

it seemed that = pareciera que, parecía que, pareció que

It would seem = parecería

Would it seem that I am still wrong?

It would seem that I disagree. I would say

it seemed that = parecía que, pareció que

It would seem = parecería, pareciera que

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by tacuba

"Los nietos juegan tranquilamente sobre la terraza, pareciera que se dan cuenta de la necesidad que tienen sus padres de unos momentos de descanso"

My translation:
"The grandchildren play quietly on the patio, it would appear that they realize that the parents need a few moments of relaxation"

My question is about paracer in the imperfect subjunctive. Could it be said using the indicative "parece que se dan cuenta", or is the subjunctive required?

Thanks

Your translation is fine. You could also translate this "it would appear that the children realize..." You could use either "parece" or "pareciera" in this sentence.

parece "the children appear to know that their parents need some peace and quiet"
pareciera "apparently the children know their parents need some peace and quiet"

Here's how I might translate it.

Los nietos juegan tranquilamente sobre la terraza, pareciera que se dan cuenta de la necesidad que tienen sus padres de unos momentos de descanso
The grandchildren play quietly on the balcony. They apparently know their (grand)parents needs a few moments of peace and quiet.

[AngelicaDeAlquezar]

@Tacuba: There is one case when someone can say "siento que estuviste enfermo", and that is when a clairvoyant guesses you've been ill when touching your hand.


@Perikles: Thank you! I will use "interchangeable" in the future.

[tacuba]

Originally Posted by AngelicaDeAlquezar

@Tacuba: There is one case when someone can say "siento que estuviste enfermo", and that is when a clairvoyant guesses you've been ill when touching your hand.

Bueno, es que siempre se me olvida tomar en cuenta los videntes.:>))

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Perikles

It would seem that I disagree. I would say

it seemed that = parecía que, pareció que

It would seem = parecería, pareciera que

It seems you are right!

[chileno]

Originally Posted by Perikles

It would seem that I disagree. I would say

it seemed that = parecía que, pareció que

It would seem = parecería, pareciera que

Originally Posted by chileno

It seems you are right!

This is what had been bothering me all this time in my head.

If this is so, then how do you translate the following:

Si yo fuera un rey, tu serías mi reina.

Si los chanchos volaran, yo sería ese rey.


Please understand that I do not know grammar in Spanish nor in English. I just translate what seems to be correct according to my limited knowledge of my own language (Spanish), and to how I express myself in it.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by chileno

Si yo fuera un rey, tu serías mi reina.

Si los chanchos volaran, yo sería ese rey.

If I were a king, you would be my queen

(Literally) If pigs flew, I would be that king

(Usually): If pigs could fly ...

fuera: a subjunctive used for an untrue hypothesis
were: This is an English subjuntive used for an untrue hypothesis, not a past tense.

This is confusing because in

If I were you
They were all tired

The first were is a subjunctive, relating to present time
The second were is an indicative imperfect relating to the past. At least in Spanish the forms are different.

In

If pigs flew, I would be that king

Agaian, flew is a subjunctive relating to the present, but has the same form as the indicative past tense.

Sorry if that is too technical.

[irmamar]

I insist: imperfecto de subjuntivo literario (arcaico y vicioso)

Los nietos juegan tranquilamente sobre la terraza, parece que se den (aquí va el subjuntivo)

Una buena página sobre el uso del imperfecto de subjuntivo:

http://www.mailxmail.com/curso-grama...ubjuntivo-usos

[poli]

Originally Posted by irmamar

I insist: imperfecto de subjuntivo literario (arcaico y vicioso)

Los nietos juegan tranquilamente sobre la terraza, parece que se den (aquí va el subjuntivo)

Una buena página sobre el uso del imperfecto de subjuntivo:

http://www.mailxmail.com/curso-grama...ubjuntivo-usos

That certainly simplies it. The other use as expressed in there threads really confused me, because I haven't heard it in common speech.

[irmamar]

Some writers have an eagerness to demonstrate their great knowledge of the language, so much so that they make great grammatical mistakes. Sometimes simplicity shows an author's authentic knowledge and his/her real intelligence.