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Old May 08, 2009, 12:18 PM
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Ser / creer

Es la diferencia entre 'ser' y 'creer' el grado de seguridad?

Por ejemplo, con 'creer', hay un posibilidad qué se está incorrecto. Con 'ser' se es certero sobre algo?
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Old May 08, 2009, 01:21 PM
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¿Tienes algún ejemplo específico donde los dos verbos sean confusos?

Ser = to be

Creer = to believe
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¿Tienes algún ejemplo específico donde los dos verbos sean confusos?

Ser = to be

Creer = to believe
Correcto, pero to be= ser o estar, and I am certain (that) you know this.
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are you thinking of saber (yo sé, tú sabes...) maybe?
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are you thinking of saber (yo sé, tú sabes...) maybe?
Si, lo siento.

I was in a hurry to get out of work so we could get to the baseball game
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@Fazor: "Saber" is used when you can be certain about some kind of knowledge. "Creer" is when you're making a supposition or guess.


Sé que Juan no se ha ido, porque yo tengo las llaves de su coche.
I know Juan hasn't left because I have his car's keys.

Creo que Juan no se ha ido, porque no lo he visto salir.
I think Juan hasn't left because I haven't seen him go out.


Supe que "sé" era conjugación del verbo ser, por el contexto de la oración.
I knew that "sé" was a conjugation of the verb "ser" because of the context of the sentence.

Creí que "sé" era conjugación del verbo "ser", pero en realidad era del verbo "saber".
I thought that "sé" was a conjugation of the verb "ser", but it was actually from the verb "saber".


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Sé que "to be" significa "ser" o "estar" porque me lo enseñaron en la escuela.
I know "to be" means "ser" or "estar" because I was taught that in school.

Creí que si lo ponía completo, no tendrías qué corregirme.
I thought if I wrote it completely, you wouldn't have anything to correct.

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@Fazor: "Saber" is used when you can be certain about some kind of knowledge. "Creer" is when you're making a supposition or guess.


Sé que Juan no se ha ido, porque yo tengo las llaves de su coche.
I know Juan hasn't left because I have his car's keys.

Creo que Juan no se ha ido, porque no lo he visto salir.
I think Juan hasn't left because I haven't seen him go out.


Supe que "sé" era conjugación del verbo ser, por el contexto de la oración.
I knew that "sé" was a conjugation of the verb "ser" because of the context of the sentence.

Creí que "sé" era conjugación del verbo "ser", pero en realidad era del verbo "saber".
I thought that "sé" was a conjugation of the verb "ser", but it was actually from the verb "saber".


@Chileno:

Sé que "to be" significa "ser" o "estar" porque me lo enseñaron en la escuela.
I know "to be" means "ser" or "estar" because I was taught that in school.

Creí que si lo ponía completo, no tendrías qué corregirme.
I thought if I wrote it completely, you wouldn't have anything to correct.

I was under the impression that creer was not used to make suppositions or guesses, thus the reason it doesn't take the subjunctive.
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I was under the impression that creer was not used to make suppositions or guesses, thus the reason it doesn't take the subjunctive.

It depends on what you believe.

Not all the cases of "creer" imply suppositions of course, but I was answering Fazor's question about the opposition "creer"-"saber".


As for certainties:

Creo en Dios.
I believe in God.

Creo que nuestro deber es ser honestos.
I believe our duty is to be honest.

Creo que seremos muy felices.
I think we will be very happy.


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@Fazor: "Saber" is used when you can be certain about some kind of knowledge. "Creer" is when you're making a supposition or guess.


Sé que Juan no se ha ido, porque yo tengo las llaves de su coche.
I know Juan hasn't left because I have his car's keys.

Creo que Juan no se ha ido, porque no lo he visto salir.
I think Juan hasn't left because I haven't seen him go out.


Supe que "sé" era conjugación del verbo ser, por el contexto de la oración.
I knew that "sé" was a conjugation of the verb "ser" because of the context of the sentence.

Creí que "sé" era conjugación del verbo "ser", pero en realidad era del verbo "saber".
I thought that "sé" was a conjugation of the verb "ser", but it was actually from the verb "saber".


@Chileno:

Sé que "to be" significa "ser" o "estar" porque me lo enseñaron en la escuela.
I know "to be" means "ser" or "estar" because I was taught that in school.

Creí que si lo ponía completo, no tendrías qué corregirme.
I thought if I wrote it completely, you wouldn't have anything to correct.

Perfecto.
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En español, no hay duda en la mente cuándo se usan los verbos creer y pensar. En inglés, es posible que haya duda con los dos verbos.
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