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Old December 10, 2009, 07:58 AM
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Hacer o estar for time period?

it's already been more than 3 months and you haven't given me my raise
ya ha estado más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hizo más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hace más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado

i think the verb is hacer not estar

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Old December 10, 2009, 08:35 AM
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it's already been more than 3 months and you haven't given me my raise
ya ha estado más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
You could say "Ya he estado trabajando más de tres meses y no me has aumentado el salario/sueldo".
ya hizo más que de 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hace más que de 3 meses y no me has aumentado

i think the verb is hacer not estar

Right, hola, the right verb is "hacer".


I tend to prefer a more explicit sentence and say "no me has aumentado el salario/sueldo".

But when using the substantive "aumento", can be easily understood you're talking about your salary.

Ya hace más de tres meses y no me has dado mi aumento.


As for "hizo", it's not exactly incorrect, but the usual sentence is with "hace".

However, you can use past tense by saying "ya pasaron más de tres meses y no me has dado el aumento".
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Old December 10, 2009, 05:55 PM
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it's already been more than 3 months and you haven't given me my raise
ya ha estado más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hizo más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado
ya hace más que 3 meses y no me has aumentado

i think the verb is hacer not estar
In your post the that I can understand of the post is ( He estado listo por mas de tres meses y aun no me alcanzado mi meta.

I hope this commentary can help you.
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Old December 10, 2009, 08:02 PM
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Angelica y hE estado instead of hA estado?
we r talking about the period of time i 've been there
that would fall into the noun & 3rd person category
remember, i wanna say ITS been 3 months
im not directly saying i have been there 3 months
yo he estado aqui 3 meses= i have been here 3 months
that's y i said "ya HA estado más que tres meses....."
it's been 3 months
so y hE instead of hA
& also y "de" instead of "que"????
más que=more than
so if i strictly wanna say "it's been more than 3 months" what would i say?
hope u can answer both questions
& would it still be estar over hacer?

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Old December 11, 2009, 09:52 AM
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Your intuition is right. When talking exclusively about a period of time, "hacer tiempo" is the standard construction.

I used "(yo) he estado" to mark a difference between "hacer" and "estar" to express a similar idea.

Strictly saying "it's been more than 3 months" would be "hace más de tres meses".

By the way, I have been just reminded that one can use also "ser" (not "estar"), as an alternative: "Ya son más de tres meses que no me das un aumento". This wouldn't be my first choice though.


Más que ≠ más de:

I had never thought about the difference between them and I will let someone else do the technical description, but here are some examples using both. Maybe they'll give you a general idea about the difference...

Me gusta más el tequila que la cerveza, pero nunca tomo más de una copa.
I like tequila more than beer, but I never drink more than one glass.

Tu jardín tiene más árboles que el mío. Debes tener más de veinte.
Your garden has more trees than mine. You must have more than twenty.

Quiero a Juan más que a ti, pero te quiero más de lo que crees.
I love Juan more than you, but I love you more than you think.


I hope I didn't make it more confusing.
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Más que ≠ más de:

Quiero a Juan más que a ti, pero te quiero más de lo que crees.
I love Juan more than you, but I love you more than you think.
So más que is an exact comparative: I love X more than (I love) Y but más de is not.

By the way, I find the expression 'I love Juan more than you' ambiguous in English, but not in Spanish. It could mean
I love Juan more than (I love) you
or
I love Juan more than you (love Juan)

Because you can be nominative or accusative.
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So, you could say: more than you do, couldn't you?
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So, you could say: more than you do, couldn't you?
Yes: I love Juan more than you do.
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Yes: I love Juan more than you do.
I didn't know you loved Juan.

Well, joking apart, I wanted to be sure. Y si el maestro lo dice, será verdad

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@Perikles: I don't know which one is an exact comparative. I haven't been able to isolate a rule yet, thinking about it, "más de" is often followed by a quantity.


--Esperé al médico más de dos horas. (I waited for the doctor for more than two hours.)
--Esperaste menos que yo. (You waited less [time] than me.)



@Irma: Juan is a good loved friend... he helps in many examples.
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