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Old March 01, 2017, 11:49 AM
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Estado & sido

I am a little confused about when to use estado and sido

Several internet resources list the following:
Estado is from estar and sido is from ser. Hence, estado releases to location.

Estado is for changing states. Sido is for permeant traits

But then in a Spanish course it has the following examples:
1) They are being what they always [have]
Están siendo lo que siempre [they have] sido.

2) They are doing as they always [have] been.
Están como siempre [they have] estado.

3) He has been fine.
Ha estado bien.

4) He's very well, as always [he has] been.
Está muy bien, como siempre [he has] estado.

5) The [ladies have] been with the [man].
Las [ladies have] estado con el [man].

6) [We have] been [good friends].
None of these examples follow the rules of changing/permeant states or locations.

So why is sido used in some examples and estado in another (especially in examples 1 & 2, which seem to be saying the same thing [e.g. they both say been]).
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Old March 01, 2017, 12:59 PM
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Look here for the different uses of estar and ser.
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Old March 01, 2017, 01:17 PM
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Unfortunately, this "method" to distinguish "ser" from "estar" based on permanent/changing states is very popular, but inaccurate and it causes a lot of confusion for learners. ;(

"Ser" is used for traits inherent to the subject (like "what someone/something is", "what someone/something is like") and "estar" is for features that aren't intrinsic to the subject (there is a process or an accident that made the subject have this characteristic, or their location --like "how someone is doing", "where someone/something is").

Take a look at this thread for the differences between "ser" and "estar".
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Last edited by AngelicaDeAlquezar; March 01, 2017 at 01:18 PM. Reason: It took me long to write this post and Rusty beat me to reply, but one more answer won't hurt. :)
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