Future perfect subjunctive?

[betsysimpkins]

Hola a todos!

In my class we are working on future perfect. A student asked an interesting question regarding subjunctive in this context. Can you tell me if subjunctive would be required and if so...would it be past subjunctive even if we're referring to a future event?

Yo espero que para el año 2050 mis hijos habrán empezado en la universidad.

Gracias por su ayuda!

Betsy

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by betsysimpkins

Hola a todos!

In my class we are working on future perfect. A student asked an interesting question regarding subjunctive in this context. Can you tell me if subjunctive would be required and if so...would it be past subjunctive even if we're referring to a future event?

Yo espero que para el año 2050 mis hijos habrán empezado en la universidad.

Gracias por su ayuda!

Betsy

my guess is that hubieren empezado would be needed, given that you always need the subjunctive after esperar if it is to mean to hope..

[aleCcowaN]

Yo espero que para 2050 mis hijos hubieren empezado la universidad. (future perfect subjunctive)

It makes no sense.

Para el 2050 cualquier hijo mío que todavía no hubiere empezado la universidad, quedará desheredado.

That is better, and extremely unusual.

Yo espero que para 2050 mis hijos (ya) hayan empezado la universidad.
Yo espero que para 2050 mis hijos (ya) habrán empezado la universidad.

Both present perfect subjunctive and future perfect imply conjecture here. But they are different: the first one express hope (it might happen, it might not); the second one, expectation (it will surprise me it won't)