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Old October 26, 2011, 08:39 AM
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Satisfacer con creces

I sure it means to be completely satisfied, but I would like to know if
this is a commonly used term. Thanks.
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Old October 26, 2011, 08:44 AM
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"Con creces" is a very commonly used term. It means to have/give more than what was expected.

"Satisfacer con creces" means you're satisfied beyond your expectations, to be a bit more than completely satisfied.
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"Satisfacer con creces" -rather strange collocation- doesn't mean "to be completely satisfied", but sort of "to over-satisfy". Nobody says "estoy satisfecho con creces" (only 5 instances in Google, being Internet common denominator and communicating vessels of every abnormal language as it is). I found only one instance of that in RAE's corpus, one from Argentine writer Manucho Mujica Láinez:

"El fastuoso mercader acogió a su delfín, abriéndole los robustos brazos. Fulguraba de orgullo, y deduje que la cortesana le había transmitido una versión de la potencia física del mocito, elaborada a propósito para satisfacer con creces la publicada masculinidad paterna." (El Escarabajo, 1982)

In that specific work it may mean to "over-compensate" or "counterbalance".

"Recuperó la inversión con creces" ---> "recuperó todo lo que invirtió y además ganó dinero" (not "recuperó completamente lo que invirtió")
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I tend to agree with Angélica, at least in Spain “con creces” is quite common. And “satisfacer con creces” is a quite common collocation. True, CREA (Corpus de Referencia del Español Actual) gives only the example of Mújica Láinez with “satisfacer”, but “con creces” appears more than 700 times and I include just some of the examples.

Also in Google, I get 166 results for “satisfará con creces”.


Below (under the Oxford bilingual translation) are some of the CREA examples (you see “superar con creces” “cumplir con creces” “superar con creces” and so on.)

(DRAE gives, “con creces” “crecida, colmadamente”.)

(Oxford gives good translations into English!)

creces: superó con creces la prueba de acceso = she passed the entrance exam with flying colors; le devolví concreces el dinero que me prestó = I paid him back the money he lent me and more; vas a pagar con creces este error = you will pay dearly for this mistake; las cifras han superado con creces todas las previsiones = the figures are wayover o have far exceeded all estimates; ha superado con creces lo que se esperaba de él = he has more than satisfiedour expectations of him; superó con creces la marca mundial = she smashed the world record

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1 los malos augurios previstos se habían cumplido con creces. Estaba el hombre con la moral por los suelos ** 2001 PRENSA La Voz de la Afición, nº 18, 10/2001 : LA FERIA DE SAN ISIDRO ESPAÑA 05.Tauromaquia Asociación El Toro de Madrid (Madrid), 20012 el salario de Maazel aunque se cree que superará con creces el que tenía hasta ahora Masur, alrededor ** 2001 PRENSA El Diario Vasco, 31/01/2001 : Lorin Maazel sustituirá a Kurt ESPAÑA 04.Música Sociedad Vascongada de Publicaciones (San Sebastián), 20013 92 un primer plan de expansión que se ha cumplido con creces, ya que en tan sólo tres años hemos duplicado ** 1995 PRENSA La Vanguardia, 30/12/1995 : JORDI PALAREA ESPAÑA 03.Empresa T.I.S.A (Barcelona), 19954 un programa que en caso de completarse supondría, con creces, la mejor exhibición de la historia. ** 1995 PRENSA La Vanguardia, 30/10/1995 : RAMÓN FRANCAS ESPAÑA 02.Folclore T.I.S.A (Barcelona), 19955 no minoritario, que, con 20 meses de vida, superó con creces la media de duración de sus predecesores. ** 1995 PRENSA La Vanguardia, 30/09/1995 : PATRICIA TUBELLA ESPAÑA 03.Política T.I.S.A (Barcelona), 19956 funcionamiento del servicio y a dar por resueltas con creces las responsabilidades políticas derivadas ** 1995 PRENSA La Vanguardia, 30/06/1995 : Debate en el Congreso sobre la c ESPAÑA 03.Política T.I.S.A (Barcelona), 19957 s de que la responsabilidad política se ha pagado con creces.
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"Con creces" is a very commonly used term. It means to have/give more than what was expected.

"Satisfacer con creces" means you're satisfied beyond your expectations, to be a bit more than completely satisfied.
Agree with all. Usually, saying "with creces" means not only that you're completely satisfied but that you receive more than expected.
examples:

-You want a garden swiming-pool and you receive an olympic one.
-You expect a good discount (20%) and you receive a 30%-40%
and so on ...
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"Con creces" is a very commonly used term. It means to have/give more than what was expected.

"Satisfacer con creces" means you're satisfied beyond your expectations, to be a bit more than completely satisfied.
Something like "de pilón"?
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Something like "de pilón"?
Mexican use that, but it is asked for... or it's made noteworthy that more than it was asked is being given.
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Something like "de pilón"?
Hmm... I don't think so.

"Con creces" carries the idea similar to some sort of interest paid for an investment, not a present, as was the "pilón".

"Pilón" was an extra thing merchants used to give their customers with their purchase, like an extra apple, egg or so in a kilo, a bunch of herbs, a small item for free...
It was intended to keep customers satisfied and that they kept coming back to the store.


"De pilón" means something like "in addition":

-Don José me dio un chocolate de pilón.
Don José gave me a chocolate as a bonus.

-Señora López, llévese los cerillos de pilón.
Mrs. López, take the matches for free.

-Mira, te dieron de pilón unas papas con la hamburguesa.
Look, they gave you some potatoes together with the hamburger.

-Se me descompuso el coche en la avenida, y de pilón, empezó a llover.
My car broke on the avenue and in addition, it started raining.

-Obviamente, llegué tarde a mi cita, y de pilón, el cliente ya se había ido.
I obviously arrived late to my appointment and in addition, the client was already gone.

-Hoy fue día de buenas noticias: el jefe se va de la empresa, y de pilón, me quedo yo en su lugar.
Today it was a good news day: the boss is leaving the firm, and in addition, I'm taking his place.
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pilón (Mexican) = yapa (most Southern Hemisphere) = añadidura (Standard Spanish) = extra (like in a baker's dozen)

Back to the topic: "satisfará con creces" is just Marketingeese, a conceptual nightmare but a blatant exploit of con creces' meaning to induce the notion of you getting more value than you paid for, that's why there are many examples of "satisfará con creces" and such a few of "estoy satisfecho con creces". "Satisfará con creces" -a rather strange collocation (what would have to do this with "con creces" being common or uncommon?)- is like "llenará la copa con creces" (it'll spill liquid all around).
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I kind of agree, but I don't find the negative connotation this expression has for Alec.

It's rather common to hear "estoy más que satisfecho (con...)", which is an equivalent for me of "estar satisfecho con creces", and it's usually said with a sense of happiness that expectations have been exceeded by far.
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