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Old March 02, 2009, 06:39 PM
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Práctica con "por", primera parte

Yo tuve prórroga hoy. Esta vez, escribo oraciones con "por". Por favor, (1) corrige el uso de "por", y (2) corrige todo lo demás.

#1) Anoche, nevó por doce horas. (¡Hoy, no tenemos escuela!)
#2) Para ir al trabajo cada mañana, manejo el coche por treinta minutos. (Are my use of "para" AND "por" correct?)
#3) Por la nieve, no tenemos escuela.
#4) Por no tenemos escuela, hoy yo dormí dos siestas.
#5) Siento mucho agradecimiento por mis amigos en Tomísimo.
#6) Tnego desvelo por muchos de mis estudiantes.
#7) Pagué cuarenta dolares por los zapatos deportivos en oferta.
#8) Yo abandoné mi juventud por mi carrera.

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Yo tuve prórroga hoy. Esta vez, escribo oraciones con "por". Por favor, (1) corrige el uso de "por", y (2) corrige todo lo demás.

#1) Anoche, nevó por doce horas. (¡Hoy, no tenemos escuela!)
#2) Para ir al trabajo cada mañana, manejo el coche por treinta minutos. (Are my use of "para" AND "por" correct?)
#3) Por la nieve, no tenemos escuela.
#4) Por Como no tenemos escuela, hoy yo dormí dos siestas.
#5) Siento mucho agradecimiento por mis amigos en Tomísimo.
#6) Tnego desvelo por muchos de mis estudiantes.
#7) Pagué cuarenta dolares por los zapatos deportivos en oferta.
#8) Yo abandoné mi juventud por mi carrera.

¡Gracias!
Great job!


#4) "Since we don't have school, I took two naps today"
In any case, it might be "Hoy dormí dos siestas porque no tenemos escuela".


#6) What's your idea?:
· "Me preocupo por muchos de mis estudiantes (y entonces no duermo)" -> "I worry about many of my students (so I don't have sleep)"
· "No duermo porque tengo mucho trabajo con mis estudiantes" -> "I can't sleep because I have a lot of work with my students"
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Great job!

#6) What's your idea?:
· "Me preocupo por muchos de mis estudiantes (y entonces no duermo)" -> "I worry about many of my students (so I don't have sleep)"
· "No duermo porque tengo mucho trabajo con mis estudiantes" -> "I can't sleep because I have a lot of work with my students"
Thanks, Malila! It's nice that you're always so on top of these things.

For #6, I wanted to use the word "concern" and that's what the Tomisimo dictionary said. So, in English, what I wanted to say (simply) was: I have concern for many of my students.

I don't know about the losing sleep part. I don't lose sleep for concerns about anything (one of those fortunate people!). Is there a better way to say that? The sample sentences I was using said to use "por" in that case to represent an emotion that you have FOR someone.....
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Thanks, Malila! It's nice that you're always so on top of these things.

For #6, I wanted to use the word "concern" and that's what the Tomisimo dictionary said. So, in English, what I wanted to say (simply) was: I have concern for many of my students.

I don't know about the losing sleep part. I don't lose sleep for concerns about anything (one of those fortunate people!). Very lucky indeed.
Is there a better way to say that? The sample sentences I was using said to use "por" in that case to represent an emotion that you have FOR someone.....

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"I have concern for many students" = "Me preocupo por muchos estudiantes" = "Me preocupan muchos estudiantes"


Ok...I see. I think it's rather me then. When I see "desvelo" it's not always "concern" what comes to my mind.

"Desvelarse" is not to be able to sleep, for any reason --party, concerns, insomnia...

"Desvelarse por algo" is to be so worried about something that you don't sleep. It can also mean that you care much for your work and/or you make many efforts to reach a goal. The idea is that you care so much for something, that you don't sleep.
Being sleepless can be of course understood in a figurative sense.

In any case, the sentence is odd, but not incorrect, and the use of "por" is alright.
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#4) Por no tenemos escuela, hoy yo dormí dos siestas.
Another option for this sentence would be "Por no tener escuela, ...".
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"Desvelarse" is not to be able to sleep, for any reason --party, concerns, insomnia...
Not only is it not being able to sleep, it's also simply not sleeping (as you pretty much said):

Me desvelé = I stayed up late
Estoy desvelado = I haven't been getting enough sleep / I didn't sleep enough
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Not only is it not being able to sleep, it's also simply not sleeping (as you pretty much said):

Me desvelé = I stayed up late
Estoy desvelado = I haven't been getting enough sleep / I didn't sleep enough

Very true... thank you.

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Another option for this sentence would be "Por no tener escuela, ...".
which would translate as "By not having school" ?
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which would translate as "By not having school" ?
I can give you a advice.

By not having school. Por no tener escuela.

In this phrase you are affirm that you haven't a school. What you don't study anymore.

This was my suggestion.
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which would translate as "By not having school" ?
Yes, it would be more like:

Due to not having school ...
Due to there not being school ...
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