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Old September 29, 2008, 03:18 PM
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Old September 29, 2008, 10:05 PM
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wait a minute is my question really saying that? you say my question says "you should have asked for more vacations." for a split second i thought you were right. but then i quickly thought about it and realised that i think "you should have asked for more vacations" needs the word "deberias" at the beginning. i agree w/ Rusty 100%. and i don't even know, i am not sure but i would add to that the fact that hubiese might even mean "would you". i am under the impression that the only way to say "you should have" is deberias and anything that starts w/ "hub" means "would".

hubiera= i would
hubieras= you would OR would you (if it is a question)

deberia= i should
deberias= you should

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"Hubieses pedido más vacaciones." or
"Hubieras pedido más vacaciones."
as a complete sentence means
"You should have asked for more vacation time."
If it's a subordinate clause, and part of another sentence, we'd need to see the whole sentence to translate it correctly.

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hubiera= i would
hubieras= you would OR would you (if it is a question)

deberia= i should
deberias= you should
That's not quite right. Here are a few examples.

Debo ir a caminar = I should go walking.
Debiera ir a caminar = I should go walking, but I'm not going to or can't.
Hubiera ido a caminar = I should have gone walking.
Debes haber ido a caminar = You must have gone walking.
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I think we're both correct, depending on our point of view.
Quite true.

¡No puedo creer que hayas pedido más vaccaciones!
¡No podía creer que hubieses/hubieras pedido más vaccaciones!

I can't believe you asked for more vacation time!
I couldn't believe you had asked for more vacation days!
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Old September 30, 2008, 12:33 AM
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so how would someone say "would" in spanish? i thought for sure it was "hubiera."

if "hubiera" is also "should", and "deberia" is should, how do you know if someone is using the word "would" or "should" in their sentence or statement.

if i see question marks AND the word "hubiera" then i am pretty sure they are using the word "would." i hope i am right w/ that. otherwise, how do you know if they are using "would" or "should" if you see the word "hubiera"
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so how would someone say "would" in spanish? i thought for sure it was "hubiera."

if "hubiera" is also "should", and "deberia" is should, how do you know if someone is using the word "would" or "should" in their sentence or statement.

if i see question marks AND the word "hubiera" then i am pretty sure they are using the word "would." i hope i am right w/ that. otherwise, how do you know if they are using "would" or "should" if you see the word "hubiera"
Hubiera can be translated as both would and should. Give me a few sample sentences in English and I'll translate them. Examples are a great way to learn.
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ok like if i wanted to say "should i do it" i would think its "deberia lo hacer?"
or if i want to say "you should stop that" i would think its "deberias dejar eso"
or "you should think about that" "deberias pensar acerca de eso"
or "you should go" "deberias ir"
or "i should do it myself" "deberia lo hacer yo mismo"
or "i should buy it" "deberia lo comprar"

now as far as hubiera all i know is that i tend to use it for "would" like
"would you go?" "hubieras ir?"
"would you eat something before we go?" "hubieras comer algo antes que ibamos?"

that's how i thought it should be used
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I'm not sure this needs brought up, but I think it's important to distinguish hubiera (and hubieras) as being subjunctive. There are two ways to interpret a subjunctive mood conjugation, as we have noted in previous posts. It is also possible to say would using an indicative conjugation.

habría ido = I would have gone (indicative)
hubiera ido = I would have gone (subjunctive)

There can be other translations given for either form. It depends on the context. It depends on the location of this structure in the sentence.
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ohhh ok i got you. the whole key would be whether its indicative or subjunctive. i guess that would govern what is used and when.
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