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Old April 25, 2008, 08:20 AM
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Sé que los rumanos hablan un idioma con raices latines. Leí que hay un aumento de imigrantes rumanos en España. ¿Vds (uso Vds por que no soy
muy versado en vosotros) en España oyen rumano? ¿Aprenden español
facilmente? Quisiera saber si la mayoria de los imigrantes rumanos son
roma (gitano) y si tienen un papel en la genre de musica flamenco fusión.

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Old April 25, 2008, 09:01 AM
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I can only answer one of your questions: in general Romanians are very good at learning Spanish, like most people from Eastern European countries.
I cannot tell you if they are gypsies, but I know that there is quite a negative attitude towards them in Spain (some people equate Romanian to criminal).
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Old April 25, 2008, 09:31 AM
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I sensed that there was that connotation in Spain from reading newspapers. Knowing Spanish culture has a love/hate relationship
with gypsies, I thought that rumano may be used a euphemism
for gypsy in certain cases.

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El rumano tiene raíces latinas y eslavas al cincuenta por ciento. Muchas palabras aisladas se entienden, pero nada en conjunto. Muchos de los rumanos que migran a otros países de Europa son romanís. Lamentablemente, la inmigración rumana a Europa está dejando a su país falto de mano de obra. Ahora tratan de recuperar a la gente que se ha marchado. Oigo en el metro músicos rumanos, pero tienen poco que ver con el flamenco o con la fusión, por no decir nada.
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Hey there. I am Romanian. The Romanian language is very similar to spanish and to italian. The pronunciation is very similar and so is the speaking. I've been taking spanish for 5 years now and I love the language. I have heard italians talk before and I could understand tiny bits.
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Old January 13, 2010, 09:24 PM
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That's true. There's lots of Latin in Romanian and because of that
you will be familiar with many words in Spanish and Italian.
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About an hour before stumbling upon this thread, I saw an article that is related to the discussion: http://www.euractiv.com/en/culture/m...article-188816
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Los rumanos y, en general, la gente de los Balcanes, tenéis fama de aprender con mucha facilidad cualquier lengua.
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Quote:
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Sé que los rumanos hablan un idioma con raices latines. Leí que hay un aumento de imigrantes rumanos en España. ¿Vds (uso Vds por que no soy
muy versado en vosotros) en España oyen rumano? ¿Aprenden español
facilmente? Quisiera saber si la mayoria de los imigrantes rumanos son
roma (gitano) y si tienen un papel en la genre de musica flamenco fusión.
Efectivamente, la presencia de rumanos es ahora muy patente en España, pero creo que se pueden distinguir claramente los dos grupos a los que te refieres. Por un lado están los rumanos no gitanos, a quienes la mayoría de las veces no identificamos como extranjeros si no es por su acento, que recuerda bastante al italiano. El grupo gitano, es por el contrario, el que se hace ver más y su situación es también bastante peor. Está muy mal visto en general, dado que parecen ocupar el escalón más bajo de la comunidad gitana española e integran en su mayor parte el grupo de los mendigos a las puertas de iglesias y supermercados así como el de los pequeños delincuentes. Lo lamento si mi comentario parece políticamente incorrecto, sólo intento decir lo que veo.

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There are lots of Romanians in Madrid, some are very nice, and some are gypsies begging and living in different shanty towns harrassing you on the train , or under bridges. the language is difficult, I learnt Romanian last year but I had to quit out of time.
Romanian has declensions, and they have a 3rd gender that is a mix of F and M, the definite article goes after the noun and the possessives and demonstratives are a nightmare, for the rest is OK. I guess is a question of time and dedication, but For me that I speak Italian, French and I´m learning Catalan now, the most difficult by far is Romanian. I only find easy the pronunciation as sb pointed out before.

I don´t think they learn Spanish that well and that fast, they speak well after 3 or 4years but that is normal for anybody living surrounded by the target language. It´s true that for obvious reasons they learn faster than Moroccans but imperfectly.
Practice makes perfect.

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