ayudar "con" or ayudar "en"

[WMX]

Sorry to but in on this conversation, but I was just curious what AP stands for.

[Alfonso]

Originally Posted by poli

Sosia,
Ahora entiendo: Una persona ayuda con, pero una cosa (como el cacao) ayuda en.

I'm sorry Poli you are not right. In Spanish the subject never determines the preposition after the verb.
It's the verb itself and the object what determine the preposition. I think English and Spanish are not very far apart on this.

[poli]

Originally Posted by Alfonso

I'm sorry Poli you are not right. In Spanish the subject never determines the preposition after the verb.
It's the verb itself and the object what determine the preposition. I think English and Spanish are not very far on this.

Alfonso,
Si haya una regla que la preposción está determinado por el verbo y el objecto, en el caso de ayudar en y ayudar con, me parece que la regla cambie. Lola ayudó a su hermano con su tarea. Vitamina C ayuda
en la prevención del escorbuto.
In English, a person helps with, and an object or product helps in. I think
Spanish works the same in this case.
Avísame si hice errores.

In the above quote you wrote," English and Spanish are not very far on this". You should say, English abd Spanish are not very far apart on this

Saludos

Poli

[Alfonso]

Thanks a lot Poli for your correction and your information.

I will think about what you say, although it's really hard for me to admit that, either in Spanish or in English, the subject can determine the preposition. Anyway, I will think about some phrases and I will check it. Let me some time to find it out.

I guess what you want to say is:

Si hay una regla según la cual la preposición está determinada por el verbo y por el objeto, en el caso de ayudar en y ayudar con, me parece que la regla cambia.

You can also say the same this way:

Creo que esta regla no es válida para los casos de ayudar en y ayudar con.

I'm considering it seriously. But you are changing one of the principles of structuralism studies.

Let's see what happens.

Corrections are welcomed