Hellow (I can't find a more original title)
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Don José
August 28, 2011, 05:43 AM
Hellow,
I've already been reading these forums while looking for information (thanks to everybody), as I'm having an exam on English writing next week. I've spent a lot of time studying grammar books during this summer, and putting off writing. However, better late that never (mejor tarde que nunca, isn't it nice to find idioms that are so similar in both languages?:))
Although I was able to make myself understood when living in English speaking countries, I know I make a lot of mistakes, and would like to get rid of them.
By the way, corrections and suggestions will be very welcome indeed (don't ask me why, but I love this last word). I'll try to help as well.
Another "by the way": I'm rather impressed by the strong command of Spanish that some English native speakers show in these forums.
Perikles
August 28, 2011, 05:53 AM
Welcome from me. :) I can't find anything to correct in your post, so keep posting. :wicked:
Don José
August 28, 2011, 06:16 AM
Thanks for your evaluation. It makes me more confident for my exam.
wrholt
August 28, 2011, 08:00 AM
As Perikles said, you write quite well indeed. There is one teensy spelling issue: the standard spelling is "hello". (Ah, spelling, the bane of grade-school students and second-language learners everywhere!)
Welcome to the forums! And keep writing!
chileno
August 28, 2011, 08:43 AM
Hello José.
As Perikles said, you write quite well indeed. There is one teensy spelling issue: the standard spelling is "hello". (Ah, spelling, the bane of grade-school students and second-language learners everywhere!)
Welcome to the forums! And keep writing!
He did it on purpose.
wrholt
August 28, 2011, 10:03 AM
Hello José.
As Perikles said, you write quite well indeed. There is one teensy spelling issue: the standard spelling is "hello". (Ah, spelling, the bane of grade-school students and second-language learners everywhere!)
Welcome to the forums! And keep writing!
He did it on purpose.
I was wondering. :D
Perikles
August 28, 2011, 10:08 AM
He did it on purpose.That's what I assumed. :lol::lol: I've just learned that hello is a quite recent adaption of hallo, which itself is a variation on hollo, or hollow, or holla, from French holá (with accent grave). Fascinating, or not. :)
wrholt
August 28, 2011, 10:18 AM
That's what I assumed. :lol::lol: I've just learned that hello is a quite recent adaption of hallo, which itself is a variation on hollo, or hollow, or holla, from French holá (with accent grave). Fascinating, or not. :)
According to the etymological section of the entry for "hello" in my home dictionary, French "holà" itself comes from "ho" + "là" [there], and "là" from Latin "illac" = "that way".
Don José
August 28, 2011, 10:23 AM
I promise I didn't do it on purpose. I've been looking up in different dictionaries but no entries were found for 'hellow'.
I have no idea how I learn that bad spelling:thinking:
wrholt
August 28, 2011, 10:34 AM
I promise I didn't do it on purpose. I've been looking up in different dictionaries but no entries were found for 'hellow'.
I have no idea how I learn that bad spelling:thinking:
I would suggest that you were led astray by the fact that we commonly pronounce "hello" with a strong glide to "oo", which we often spell using 'w' as in "owe". It's also the kind of sound-spelling error that we native speakers might make if we're not paying attention...
Perikles
August 28, 2011, 11:20 AM
According to the etymological section of the entry for "hello" in my home dictionary, French "holà" itself comes from "ho" + "là" [there], and "là" from Latin "illac" = "that way".Now that's interesting. And how did you type your à ? :thinking:
chileno
August 28, 2011, 11:47 AM
Ha! It was a mistake, after all. :)
wrholt
August 28, 2011, 12:29 PM
Now that's interesting. And how did you type your à ? :thinking:
With my keyboard, of course. :p
Seriously, though, I've configured my PC to be able to switch between the default English/US keyboard and to a Spanish/International keyboard that also supports other some other western-European languages. To type à, I make sure I have the current appropriate keyboard driver selected, then type ` (the key to the left of digit 1), which is a dead-key, then type a, and voilà, I have à. The same mechanism works with the keys for ', ", and ^, so I can get à, á, ä and â. Oh, and withi ~ I can also get to ã.
Perikles
August 28, 2011, 01:10 PM
I can get an á, but only a ºa (with left from 1 plus a :thinking:)with the Spanish keyboard. Ah well, I´ll just avoid French. That's easy.
wrholt
August 28, 2011, 01:23 PM
I can get an á, but only a ºa (with left from 1 plus a :thinking:)with the Spanish keyboard. Ah well, I´ll just avoid French. That's easy.
Ah, but I'm not using the Spanish/Spanish keyboard. I have two settings:
1. English (United States)/US: that is, language & culture = English (United States), and keyboard choice = US.
2. Spanish (United States)/United States - International: that is, language & culture = Spanish (United States), and keyboard choice = United States -International.
It looks like your keyboard redefines the `/~ key (the one to the left of digit 1) with other characters. If you have a different key that normally presents `/~, then the unshifted character gives the grave accent.
Don José
August 28, 2011, 02:06 PM
I would suggest that you were led astray by the fact that we commonly pronounce "hello" with a strong glide to "oo", which we often spell using 'w' as in "owe". It's also the kind of sound-spelling error that we native speakers might make if we're not paying attention...
I have also though in that explanation. Shall we call it 'sound explanation'?
I have another hypothesis, a 'visual' one. 'Hellow' looks like 'yellow". Although I've read hundreds of times 'hello', my brain must have decided that it was a kind of informal word, like 'hi'.
wrholt
August 28, 2011, 02:50 PM
I have also though in that explanation. Shall we call it 'sound explanation'?
I have another hypothesis, a 'visual' one. 'Hellow' looks like 'yellow". Although I've read hundreds of times 'hello', my brain must have decided that it was a kind of informal word, like 'hi'.
Yep, that sounds at least as plausible as my suggestion.
CrOtALiTo
August 29, 2011, 12:06 AM
I bid you welcome to these forums
I'm CrOtALiTo if you need to help with your practice, I will be willing to help you.
Sincerely yours.
Jessica
August 29, 2011, 06:39 PM
welcome to the forums!
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