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Iris
May 14, 2008, 02:06 PM
My husband has just told me a South American colleague of his says un cuarto para las ocho instead of las ocho menos cuarto. Is that what everybody says on the other side of the Atlantic?:confused:
poli
May 14, 2008, 02:26 PM
Oh, yes. Un cuarto para las ocho se usa. Quince minutos para las ocho también.
gatitoverde
May 14, 2008, 03:51 PM
Yeah, I've heard that at work before.
Marcos
May 15, 2008, 06:52 AM
I have heard that as well both in Mexico (Guadalajara, Monterrey and the Yucatan) as well as the Dominican Republic. I can't recall if I have ever heard a native speaker in any of these places use the "son las ocho menos cuarto" form. It seems to be either "un cuarto para las ocho" or even "siete y cuarenta y cinco".
I found this very odd at first because learning in school it was stressed that this form was not used. I always learned the "las ocho menos cuarto" form. Conversationally at least, this has been my experience. I have no idea if this holds true for the rest of Latin America or Spain.
Tomisimo
May 15, 2008, 07:03 AM
My husband has just told me a South American colleague of his says un cuarto para las ocho instead of las ocho menos cuarto. Is that what everybody says on the other side of the Atlantic?:confused:
Absolutely. I don't think I've ever heard a native Mexican Spanish speaker say las ocho menos cuarto, aunque a la mejor hay uno que otro que así lo diga.
Iris
May 15, 2008, 01:12 PM
David, you should say a lo mejor.
Tomisimo
May 15, 2008, 11:34 PM
David, you should say a lo mejor.
Duly noted.
In México it seems they use both a lo mejor and a la mejor. (at least when speaking).
Iris
May 16, 2008, 06:39 AM
I didn't know, sorry.
Tomisimo
May 17, 2008, 10:25 AM
No need to be sorry, probably only a lo mejor is used in Spain. To be on the safe side, I'll stick with a lo mejor. Thanks! :)
Escarabajo
May 17, 2008, 01:32 PM
Tal vez a la mejor venga de la frase a la mejor hora.
(Cambié palabras. ¿Venga es mejor que viene, no? ¿Sugeréncias? ¿Existe otra forma de decirlo mejor?)
Tomisimo
May 17, 2008, 02:13 PM
Puede ser. Yo no tengo la menor idea de dónde proviene.
Tomisimo
May 17, 2008, 03:42 PM
Tal vez a la mejor venga de la frase a la mejor hora.
(Cambié palabras. ¿Venga es mejor que viene, no? ¿Sugeréncias? ¿Existe otra forma de decirlo mejor?)
This is a good question for a native speaker. I actually think tal vez viene sounds better. To use the subjunctive (venga), You'd say something like: Es posible que "a la mejor" venga de ...
WMX
May 17, 2008, 08:45 PM
It's funny because the textbook tell you it is las ocho meno cuarto, but on the street you hear cuarto pa las ocho.
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