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Alfonso
June 29, 2008, 03:44 PM
Jane, una Celestina is a woman, generally an old one, who tries to link people with not very good intentions. She arranges marriages and relationships for money. She's not an angel at all.
It dates back to a character by Ovid, revised by Fernando de Rojas in his play/novel Tragicomedia de Calisto y Melibea, also known by La Celestina (1499).

María José
June 29, 2008, 03:53 PM
Celestina is a matchmaker( The book is great, BTW). If you say somebody is a quixote, or un quijote you mean they are idealistic.

Jane
June 30, 2008, 02:52 AM
Jane, una Celestina is a woman, generally an old one, who tries to link people with not very good intentions. She arranges marriages and relationships for money. She's not an angel at all.
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So if someone does the same job (matchmaking), but with VERY good intentions and not for money, who/what would she be?;)

Alfonso
June 30, 2008, 06:48 AM
So if someone does the same job (matchmaking), but with VERY good intentions and not for money, who/what would she be?;)I think she would also be a celestina. But the target of this might not be filantropic.

María José
June 30, 2008, 07:05 AM
Philanthropic.Sorry, but I know you don't have your spell checking thingy with you.I will have to do.;)

Alfonso
June 30, 2008, 07:10 AM
Philanthropic.Sorry, but I know you don't have your spell checking thingy with you.I will have to do.;)Thanks a lot. I hope it won't be a lot of work. I'll do my best!

poli
June 30, 2008, 07:12 AM
Thanks guys.
You´re both too kind.:love:
Kind of what?:rolleyes::thinking:
Incidentially in literature people whose characterisics are used to discribe
personalities are many. The Bible is loaded with them. In English language
literature Romeo (the lover) King Lear( the failed leader) Lady MacBeth (woman who provokes her husband to do horrible things in order to gain power) Shylock(bill collector), Uncle Tom, Walter Mitty. I skipped some centuries. I hope I didn't offend the ones I left out:worried:

María José
June 30, 2008, 07:16 AM
Who's Walter Mitty? And you forgot my favourite Shakespearean character: Othello.:lightning:

poli
June 30, 2008, 10:51 AM
Othello was interesting but no one ever calls anyone an Othello. Romeo yes, King Lear -less so, Shylock-yes. Calling a jealous husband an Othello
would be an interesting thing to say, but I never heard it said.
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty is a twentieth century comic novel in which the main character's personality gets the best of him.

María José
June 30, 2008, 12:29 PM
Poli, I've just read (but maybe it was on the British press): Obama is an Othello for our times.

poli
June 30, 2008, 12:48 PM
I hope not. Unlike Othello, he seems awfully cool to let jealousy devour him. If the British press is right, who is his Iago?

María José
June 30, 2008, 01:00 PM
I think they said he was an Othello only in the sense that he was a handsome black guy who has lots of power, which frightens those around him.Doesn't frighten me though. I think he's cute.

Jane
June 30, 2008, 03:13 PM
Kind of what?:rolleyes::thinking:
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Poli, I was responding to some compliments.:D

Jane
July 03, 2008, 04:28 PM
Poli, I've just read (but maybe it was on the British press): Obama is an Othello for our times.
...among other things.:p