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Alfonso
July 30, 2008, 03:16 PM
It has nothing to do with the racist think, it was because I didn't like the poll (encuesta)
Te consideras culto?
Si soy muy culto, y preciso, no digo modismos.
Soy regular, soy estudiado y se usar mis modismos.

I thought it was too white or too black, so I didn't answer. There are lots of people (for example old farm people, whith no studies) who has a narrower variety of knowledge, but they use this narrow knowledge perfectly. They make no faults, or incorrect expresions. They do not use cultivate words, but their words express what they want.

I consider myself "culto", but I can use modismos, slang or whatever word I found it's the right there. I try to use the proper words in the proper moment. It's not the same talking to young people or with old people. An extreme example is Japanese.

saludos :DI completely agree with you, Sosia. What you saw in the pall is what I also saw. Variety / reality is much more than two tendentious options.

Alfonso
July 30, 2008, 03:36 PM
Crotalito, I'm sure you are NOT hypocrite nor racist nor clasist... SURE. How could a penguin wearing a tie could be such a thing? NO WAY. ;)

Of course, I didn't get offended for anything you said. Nor even I will get offended if you don't answer my questions. Which questions? These two ones:
Is it true that middle or high class Mexican people make depreciative gestures when they hear people talking with idioms / modismos?Dime si estoy equivocado: por lo que escribes, entiendo que en México a la gente que utiliza un registro bajo al hablar se le llama despectivamente naco. ¿Estoy en lo cierto?Insisto en que SÉ que no eres nada de esas cosas tan feas que hemos dicho.

En fin, cuando quieras, Crotalito, puedes cerrar el hilo, pues éste ya es muy largo y pesado...
Muy buenas noches... :kiss:

Alfonso
July 30, 2008, 03:38 PM
To tell you the truth, I don't think Alfonso was accusing you of being a racist or a hypocrite. I think that he was debating your viewpoint about "modismos" and their use and who uses them and their place in a language......which he is entitled to.

I agree with you... :rose:

Amanpour
July 30, 2008, 04:02 PM
When I first saw this thread and the poll options, I honestly didn´t think it was worth looking at, but then it got really interesting even with the misunderstandings and misinterpretations(that´s what they were in my opinion). And I´m impressed how at the end, between Alfonso, Poli and Crotalito, things were cleared up, more or less.
BTW, I think the administrators should check or control threads with poll options.

CrOtALiTo
July 30, 2008, 04:30 PM
Hey, Amanpour ya!!!, aqui solo comentamos nuestras formas de hablar y de pensar a demas son educativos el saber como piensan en otros paises.

Hey, Afonso cerremos el tema, eres un gran teacher.

Poli, sin resentimientos todos como buenos usuarios.

Buenas tardes.

Thread close, right now.

This history has finished.

Amanpour
July 30, 2008, 04:37 PM
Please, I´d like to know if the members of the forums also reserve the right to close chosen threads. I´m new to all of this.

CrOtALiTo
July 30, 2008, 04:41 PM
Yeah, I guess it, Alfonso told me, please crotalito close this thread, because is very it's long. and I've closed this thread.

Why do you have something that you want comment.?

Amanpour
July 30, 2008, 04:45 PM
Yeah, I guess it, Alfonso told me, please crotalito close this thread, because is very it's long. and I've closed this thread.

Why do you have something that you want comment.?
No, I don´t, thank you very much.
Are you and Alfonso the administrators of the forums?

Rusty
July 30, 2008, 04:52 PM
We don't officially close a thread. I have only seen Crotalito 'close' a thread.

Tomísimo is the sole administrator of the forums.

Amanpour
July 30, 2008, 05:14 PM
Thanks, Rusty, for the information.

Tomisimo
July 30, 2008, 09:17 PM
I mean a non problematic but also non really interesting thread. Don't you use that expression in English? I'm sorry I translated it directly from Spanish, as you can say something like una opinión blanca meaning this. It's funny that you wrote what do you man by...? Can you say I man this, I man that? :rolleyes:

Es la primera vez que veo la expresión opinión blanca, creo que se podría traducir a non-controversial opinion.

Los EE UU es un pais que sigue ser un pais de imigrantesNo entiendo lo señalado en violeta.
Creo que quiso decir sigue siendo.

Yeah, I guess it, Alfonso told me, please crotalito close this thread, because is very it's long. and I've closed this thread.
It doesn't really matter if threads grow very large. Doesn't bother me. If you have reason to believe a thread should be closed, your best bet will be to send me a PM.
No hay problema si un hilo sea muy largo. Si crees que uno debe ser cerrado, mejor mándame un mensaje privado para que yo lo cierre si es apropiado.

We don't officially close a thread. I have only seen Crotalito 'close' a thread.

Tomísimo is the sole administrator of the forums.
:)

CrOtALiTo
July 30, 2008, 11:13 PM
Yeah, David thanks for the information good night.

Alfonso
July 31, 2008, 01:12 AM
No, I don´t, thank you very much.
Are you and Alfonso the administrators of the forums?I'm sorry I was joking. A private joke for those who know what does usually happen... Of course, I think a thread should always be open. And, actually, it is. David (Tomísimo) is the sole administrator of the forums, as already has been said, and I have never seen a closed thread. I hope this will continue so.

Crotalito, please, I know I asked you to close the thread, but, as you see, this can be confusing. I think it's better if you don't close a thread anymore.

poli
July 31, 2008, 05:49 AM
Es la primera vez que veo la expresión opinión blanca, creo que se podría traducir a non-controversial opinion.


Creo que quiso decir sigue siendo.


It doesn't really matter if threads grow very large. Doesn't bother me. If you have reason to believe a thread should be closed, your best bet will be to send me a PM.
No hay problema si un hilo sea muy largo. Si crees que uno debe ser cerrado, mejor mándame un mensaje privado para que yo lo cierre si es apropiado.
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Perdóname Alfonso por no contestarte. Es que este hilo estaba muy enterado. Lo leí pero no lo contesté. Tienes razón: sigue siendo es lo que quería decir.
:)
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CrOtALiTo
July 31, 2008, 11:05 AM
Alfonso, I didn't close the thread only I was joked, but the I said about the thread close, it was a joke, I'm sorry if the joke was hard.