Me gustaría que me venda un vaso de coca cola.
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Liquinn3
August 29, 2013, 08:12 AM
Why is the subjunctive used here?
Me gustaría que me venda un vaso de coca cola.
Are there any other ways to say it?
Thanks. :)
AngelicaDeAlquezar
August 29, 2013, 09:09 AM
Subjunctive is used in sentences expressing wishes.
Liquinn3
August 29, 2013, 09:12 AM
Subjunctive is used in sentences expressing wishes.
Entiendo. Gracias. :)
pjt33
August 29, 2013, 03:24 PM
Although shouldn't it be an imperfect subjunctive, since it follows a conditional?
Rusty
August 29, 2013, 03:52 PM
I would use it that way, but there was a thread somewhere that says you don't have to conjugate into the imperfect tense if gustar is the verb of volition. I think I can find the thread if I look for it.
Liquinn3
August 29, 2013, 03:52 PM
How do I make it imperfect subjunctive?
Me gustaría que me venda un vaso de coca cola. - is wrong?
Rusty
August 29, 2013, 04:09 PM
I can't find the thread I was looking for, so forget what I said.
Using the present subjunctive where the imperfect subjunctive should have been used (according to all the grammar I've been taught) is something that I encounter once in awhile.
I think the sentence is wrong, but there are probably some native speakers that will defend it.
It should be 'vendiera' or 'vendiese' instead of 'venda'.
Liquinn3
August 29, 2013, 04:11 PM
I can't find the thread I was looking for, so forget what I said.
Using the present subjunctive where the imperfect subjunctive should have been used (according to all the grammar I've been taught) is something that I encounter once in awhile.
I think the sentence is wrong, but there are probably some native speakers that will defend it.
It should be 'vendiera' or 'vendiese' instead of 'venda'.
I think I'll not bother using the sentence if this is wrong.
Could we get a natives opinion on this? If it is wrong, I won't use the sentence.
Rusty
August 29, 2013, 04:15 PM
Use the sentence as I stated and all will be well. Use the imperfect subjunctive when the main clause verb is in the conditional mood.
Liquinn3
August 29, 2013, 04:16 PM
Use the sentence as I stated and all will be well. Use the imperfect subjunctive when the main clause verb is in the conditional mood.
Gracias. :)
AngelicaDeAlquezar
August 29, 2013, 04:53 PM
I agree with Rusty.
Although personally I don't like this structure, it is colloquially valid:
"Me gustaría" here is used to sound more polite when asking for something, and also it's something I expect it will happen, so the subjunctive doesn't have to agree with the conditional.
However, if you are expressing a situation that would hardly happen, then the past subjunctive is needed: "Me gustaría que me vendiera una coca-cola, pero no va a querer, porque le caigo mal."
Rusty
August 29, 2013, 05:02 PM
Ah, that's the ticket. (That's what I was trying to find.)
When 'gustar' is used to form a polite request, it isn't being used in the conditional mood. Therefore, you would use the present subjunctive.
Thanks!
zuma022
August 29, 2013, 06:44 PM
Bit late, but could this be the thread you were looking for, Rusty?
http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=16649
Rusty
August 29, 2013, 07:00 PM
I looked at that one, but didn't find what I was looking for.
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