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ElDanés
August 12, 2008, 07:06 AM
It's easy just to find a Spanish movie or music, but instead of I'm just finding something random on the Internet, I would rather ask you, what you think is good.
I believe it's a good way to learn a language (especially its pronunciation) through movies and music, even though I don't know Spanish very well yet. It will also give me a feeling of how Spanish is used in the real world.
I'm open to all kinds of music and movies. It would probably be good if the movie has lots of dialogues, but I don't require it, so suggest me whatever you have on your mind.
Thanks!
ElDanés
August 12, 2008, 07:13 AM
Oh, that's funny. I just realized, that my favorite artist has made songs in Spanish. Hitherto I had thought he only made songs in Portuguese and English, but also, Spanish! Great. The artist I'm talking about is Devendra Banhart (http://www.devendrabanhart.com/) if anyone's interested.
I'm still open for suggestions from you!
Rusty
August 12, 2008, 07:22 AM
It's easy just to find a Spanish movies or music, but instead of I'm just finding something random on the Internet, I would rather ask you, what you think is good.
I believe it's a good way to learn a language (especially its pronunciation), through movies and music, even though I don't know Spanish very well yet. It will also give me a feeling of how Spanish is used in the real world.
I'm open to all kinds of music and movies. It would probably be good if the movie has lots of dialogues, but I don't require it, so suggest me whatever you have on your mind.
Thanks!
Since you've asked, there are a couple of corrections above, mostly by way of polishing up what you wrote. Your English is quite good.
I love the clear pronunciation and music style that Gloria Estefan offers. Her Mi Tierra album is very nice. She is Cuban, so she has a Latin American accent, but that is what I learned.
Rusty
August 12, 2008, 07:28 AM
Oh, that's funny. I just realized, that my favorite artist has made songs in Spanish. Hitherto I had thought he only made songs in Portuguese and English, but also, Spanish! Great. The artist I'm talking about is Devendra Banhart (http://www.devendrabanhart.com/) if anyone's interested.
I'm still open for suggestions from you!
I've not heard of him. Thanks for sharing.
By the way, hitherto is a quaint (and antiquated) way to say before/until now/today or up till now.
ElDanés
August 12, 2008, 07:31 AM
Thank you for the corrections, and I will look into Gloria Estefan.
By the way, hitherto is a quaint (and antiquated) way to say before/until now/today or up till now.
Yes, I like archaic English word, and that's why I keep using them. I've noticed that not many people use them; is it considered a bad practice?
ElDanés
August 12, 2008, 07:36 AM
One of his Spanish songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW29FObVzuw
poli
August 12, 2008, 07:51 AM
Rusty's suggestion is good. If you can obtain the lyrics to the songs. Read the lyrics and listen to to singer at the same time, it really helps. Listening to singers is a great way to learn to speak better. Ballads are always best for beginners. The boleros from the 1950's, though old-fashionsed can help, because they are often sung clearly and usually the words make sense.
ElDanés
August 12, 2008, 07:59 AM
Thanks, poli. Can you mention any particular artist? It would make it easier for me to find it then.
Rusty
August 12, 2008, 08:13 AM
Thank you for the corrections ...
Yes, I like archaic English words, and that's why I keep using them. I've noticed that not many people use them; is it considered a bad practice?
No, it's not considered a bad practice. I'm very comfortable with the archaic words because I'm quite well versed in the 17th century English used in the KJV (King James Version of the Bible). However, most people in the US aren't familiar with those words (there are many who advocate the use of modern translations of the Bible and other great literary works). So, it's probably better to use the archaic words sparingly.
I only mentioned this to you in case you weren't aware that you were using quaint language. :)
(Hitherto doesn't appear to be as old as whence or wist. I would not try to use those on the unexpecting public. :eek:)
Rusty
August 12, 2008, 08:24 AM
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ12x2wMF9Y) is Gloria Estefan's Ayer, with embedded lyrics! The recording is a bit garbled, but you'll get the idea.
The song you posted by Devendra Banhart is great. He doesn't pronounce the letter 's', so he must have learned his Spanish in the parts of Spain where they elide it as well. That is how the Nicaraguans speak, too. I learned most of my Spanish in Nicaragua, so I was able to follow him quite well.
poli
August 12, 2008, 08:26 AM
Thanks, poli. Can you mention any particular artist? It would make it easier for me to find it then.
Olga Guillot is great-- especially her old recordings.
**Luis Miguelhas a ballads(bolero) album sung clearly and you can learn
Spanish from that disc.**
Gloria Estéfan also sings clearly and she's easy to understand.
Try samples of Vicky Carr's songs in Spanish(I think she's from Texas but I think her Spanish is flawless--her English is flawless too)
Like Rusty says, hithero is old, but it seems really sophisticated to me in writing. When spoken it may confuse some because it's unusual.
ElDanés
August 12, 2008, 08:31 AM
No, it's not considered a bad practice. I'm very comfortable with the archaic words because I'm quite well versed in the 17th century English used in the KJV (King James Version of the Bible). However, most people in the US aren't familiar with those words (there are many who advocate the use of modern translations of the Bible and other great literary works). So, it's probably better to use the archaic words sparingly.
I only mentioned this to you in case you weren't aware that you were using quaint language. :)
(Hitherto doesn't appear to be as old as whence or wist. I would not try to use those on the unexpecting public. :eek:)
KJV should be a masterpiece. I haven't got the chance to read it yet, though.
I think the archaic words give the English language more personality somehow. The Americanization fills more and more in our daily life, at least in Denmark, and we're borrowing more and more words from you; modern words. So, when you get all this thrown in your head every day, it's nice sometimes to see good ol' words like hither, thither, thence, therewithal, etc.
I was actually considering using heretofore, but I thought that more people know hitherto, but I guess you are right. Most people don't know such words, including whence and wist. Admittedly, I had to look up wist, so I guess I'm one of those people as well. ;)
ElDanés
August 12, 2008, 08:35 AM
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ12x2wMF9Y) is Gloria Estefan's Ayer, with embedded lyrics! The recording is a bit garbled, but you'll get the idea.
Thank you, I will watch it, when I have finished replying to your message. :)
The song you posted by Devendra Banhart is great. He doesn't pronounce the letter 's', so he must have learned his Spanish in the parts of Spain where they elide it as well. That is how the Nicaraguans speak, too. I learned most of my Spanish in Nicaragua, so I was able to follow him quite well.
He was raised in Caracas in Venezuela, and that's pretty close to Nicaragua, so it seems like you got it right!
ElDanés
August 12, 2008, 08:37 AM
Olga Guillot is great-- especially her old recordings.
Luis Miguel has a ballads(bolero) album sung clearly and you can learn
Spanish from that disc.
Gloria Estéfan also sings clearly and she's easy to understand.
Try samples of Vicky Carr's songs in Spanish(I think she's from Texas but I think her Spanish is flawless--her English is flawless too)
Thank you, it's good to get some names.
(Admin: Sorry about the triple-posting. I will try to keep it in a single post henceforth.)
CrOtALiTo
August 12, 2008, 10:03 AM
Danes, I've been thinking about your last post, rather I've thoungh the possibility of I give you some ideas of how you can learn Spanish a few faster, good, I think, if you find movies Mexicans, as Pedro Infante movies, and in that movies the language is originaly native speaking for the Mexican, rather you must buy you a dictionary above Spanish, look the Spanish is easy, it's has more words, it's sole issue of learn the words easier, if you've the software called ARES, you can find movies, as Hasta los ricos lloran, the now famous movie called Torito, and another movies, I do not remember all the movies now, yet you can go to thinking the possibility of find a friend in a messenger where you can speak with her, by microphone, I've done it, and just it help me as much as you can imagine it, look if you want my E-mail addrees, with taste I could to give you, such we are both'll can speak for microphone and you and me, we learn our languages wished.
Live the sun and the people of all the earth.
poli
August 12, 2008, 10:47 AM
Danes, I've been thinking about your last post. rather. I've got you some ideas about how you can learn Spanish well a little faster. I think, if you find Mexican movies,such as Pedro Infante movies. The language used is truly Mexican Spanish, but you must buy a dictionary. The Spanish is easy. If you have software called ARES, you can find movies, such as Hasta los Ricos Lloran, the now famous movie called Torito, and another movies. I do not remember all the movies now, but you can find a friend in a messenger who you can speak with by microphone. I've done it, and just it helps me as much as you can imagine. Look if you want my E-mail addrees, I could to give it to you. We both can speak by microphone -- you and I. We can each learn our new language together.
Long live the sun and the people of all the earth.
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CrOtALiTo
August 12, 2008, 11:36 AM
Thanks Poli, for your corrections.
poli
August 14, 2008, 02:50 PM
Oh, that's funny. I just realized, that my favorite artist has made songs in Spanish. Hitherto I had thought he only made songs in Portuguese and English, but also, Spanish! Great. The artist I'm talking about is Devendra Banhart (http://www.devendrabanhart.com/) if anyone's interested.
I'm still open for suggestions from you!
I finally got to hear Davendra Banhart. The recording sample you sent us
was really quite nice. There's a very famous singer named Chavela Vargas
whose soulfullness resembles Banhart's. At an advanced age, Pedro
Almodóvar put her in one of his movies. This casting made her internationally famous not just in the Spanish-speaking world but everywhere else too. I heard other Banhart clips on You-Tube, and they sound pretty wild. Chavela doesn't go there, but there's samples of her sound on the internet if you are interested.
ElDanés
August 14, 2008, 10:56 PM
I listened to some of her music on YouTube, and it sounds pretty good. It seems like her pronunciation is pretty clear, so it is probably easy for me to follow the song, if I use the lyrics.
Thanks, poli!
poli
August 15, 2008, 05:35 AM
As soon a I heard Davendra, I felt that Luis Miguel boleros may not be the
best guide for you. I hope beautiful Chavela helps you learn the rhythm of the language.
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