¿Eres otra persona al hablar otro idioma?

[CrOtALiTo]

Maria Jose, I ask you a favor, I need your answer for my last post.

[María José]

Maria Jose, I ask you a favor, I need your answer for my last post.
I'm sorry, Crotalito. I thought I had already answered you in post 17. I'm simply talking about my own personal experience, and you are talking about yours. English is such a vital part of my life, that I think (I might be wrong) that it has changed my personality, my perception of the world and even my family life.But this is just me. You have a different experience and it's ok too. We are just different people.:)

[poli]

I'm sorry, Crotalito. I thought I had already answered you in post 17. I'm simply talking about my own personal experience, and you are talking about yours. English is such a vital part of my life, that I think (I might be wrong) that it has changed my personality, my perception of the world and even my family life.But this is just me. You have a different experience and it's ok too. We are just different people.:)
Naturally learning a new language will change you because it expands your
horizons(as in learning anything big), but do you think differently in English than in Spanish? Do you feel like a different person when you speak the different language? I used to think I did, but now I know it was just circumstance that made me feel different. I imagine in extreme cases of multiple character disorder (like Sibyl) a person can develop an alter ego that speaks another language.

[CrOtALiTo]

Yes, Poli as you have said about of the change of a person only because he knows English, perhaps the person change a lil, but I don't believe that he'll change much, well, at least, only I have changed when I knew what I could communicate with other people of another contries, and it's really wonderful, because you work hard for learn the language wished, and when you fulfill the aim in your life, it feel very well, altough you need learn more about it, today I've used to daily in my life in my work and with us, for can I speak with us, and yes I've changed my life only in the way of think now, I try to think with us, altough I never will can speak same as you, but I'll can speak of a form similary not exact but almost same, I've changed in the way of express my ideas with the people of other places, now all todays, I want speak with someone who speak English, I suppose that you feel almost the same thing with you need practice your Spanish, and Maria Jose, you have more time with the language you have more experience in the thread, I correct the before said in my last post, the people change a bit in your life.

[Rusty]

Yes, Poli as you have said about of the change of a person only because he knows English, perhaps the person change a lil, but I don't believe that he'll change much, well, at least, only I have changed when I knew what I could communicate with other people of another contries, and it's really wonderful, because you work hard for learn the language wished, and when you fulfill the aim in your life, it feel very well, altough you need learn more about it, today I've used to daily in my life in my work and with us, for can I speak with us, and yes I've changed my life only in the way of think now, I try to think with us, altough I never will can speak same as you, but I'll can speak of a form similary not exact but almost same, I've changed in the way of express my ideas with the people of other places, now all todays, I want speak with someone who speak English, I suppose that you feel almost the same thing with you need practice your Spanish, and Maria Jose, you have more time with the language you have more experience in the thread, I correct the before said in my last post, the people change a bit in your life.

Here are just a few of the corrections:

... perhaps the person will change a little, but I don't believe that he'll change much ...

... only I have only changed when I knew that I could communicate with other people from other countries ...

... because you work hard to learn the desired language wished ...

... I never will be able to speak the same as you, but I'll be able to speak of a form similary in a similar way ...
-or- I'll never be able to speak

... not exactly, but almost the same ...

... I've changed in the way of expressing my ideas with the people from other places ...

... nowadays, I want to speak with someone who speaks English ...

... I suppose that you feel almost the same thing when you need to practice your Spanish ...

[CrOtALiTo]

Thanks for your corrections Rusty, How always you are to me of great help in my learning.

[Rusty]

Thanks for your corrections Rusty. You're always of great help to me in my learning.

You're welcome! :)

[María José]

Ok, I'll keep on being weird alone or with Marsopa. What I really mean is that even if it doesn't make any sense to you, I feel more English than Spanish.But I think I don't suffer from any serious personality disorders.:crossfingers:
Who's Sybil, by the way, Poli? I couldn't open the link.:confused:
I hate showing off (even though I do it quite often :D), but I have this English neighbour who's got twin daughters who are quite good friends with my youngest. Well, the thing is the other day we were talking and she said to me " It's not fair, your children talk to each other in English all the time and mine don't and you are not even English".(Oh,my God, I'm starting to sound like Vicky Pollard).:eek:
I'm sure her children will learn too; bilingual children all learn differently.
What I mean is the place where you were born doesn't determine who you are, your life and the way you live it does that.
Just an opinion, guys.
Sorry for the long post.

[poli]

Ok, I'll keep on being weird alone or with Marsopa. What I really mean is that even if it doesn't make any sense to you, I feel more English than Spanish.But I think I don't suffer from any serious personality disorders.:crossfingers:
Who's Sybil, by the way, Poli? I couldn't open the link.:confused:
I hate showing off (even though I do it quite often :D), but I have this English neighbour who's got twin daughters who are quite good friends with my youngest. Well, the thing is the other day we were talking and she said to me " It's not fair, your children talk to each other in English all the time and mine don't and you are not even English".(Oh,my God, I'm starting to sound like Vicky Pollard).:eek:
I'm sure her children will learn too; bilingual children all learn differently.
What I mean is the place where you were born doesn't determine who you are, your life and the way you live it does that.
Just an opinion, guys.
Sorry for the long post.
Estoy de acuerdo. Estás completamente versada en dos idiomas(y culturas) y prefieres uno sobre el otro. Sibyl era una protagonista gue sufrió con multi-personality disorder en que ella tenía varias personas en su cuerpo que eran distintas y algunos no conocían uno del otro. No se si es una ficción o una historia ficcionalizada. Es verdad que donde una persona se nace no tiene que reglar su vida aunque a veces se ocurra asi.
No tiene que disculpar un hilo si es largo si es interesante.:)

[CrOtALiTo]

Siby, her was a person with problems of the head, she suffered with her life if she had many personalities disorders.

I don't meet the history about of she.

[Rusty]

Siby, her was a person with problems of the head, she suffered with her life if she had many personalities disorders.

I don't meet the history about of she.
I can't find her story. (No puedo encontrar su historia/la historia de ella.)
I can't find her story. (No encuentro su historia/la historia de ella.)
I'm not familiar with the story about her. (No conozco la historia de ella.)


Yes, Sybil was a person with a mental disorder. She had a multiple personality disorder (trastorno disociativo de personalidades múltiples).

Look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_(book)) to learn more about the real Sybil, a woman named Shirley Ardell Mason.

[Elaina]

In a way, maybe not to the extent that Sybil suffered, I think we all have different personalities. The difference is that we know how to control them and use them specifically depending on the situation.

We have a personality when we are home or on the job, when we meet new people, when we want to make a good impression, etc.

What I think happened to Sybil is that she was horribly abused by her mother and she used the different personalities as her defense mechanism. This type of behavior is quite prevalent in children or people in general that suffer abuse at the hands of their caretakers. Not everyone that is abused goes into some type of psychoses but usually there is some form of mental illness that requires treatment in the long run.

What a boring world this would be if we acted the same all the time.

:twocents:

[CrOtALiTo]

Yes, a person with psychoses is usally very confused.

Guys, today I'll traveling please you wish me good luck and a good travel.

[María José]

Have a nice trip!:coffeebreak:Relax and enjoy, Crotalito.:D

[María José]

In a way, maybe not to the extent that Sybil suffered, I think we all have different personalities. The difference is that we know how to control them and use them specifically depending on the situation.

We have a personality when we are home or on the job, when we meet new people, when we want to make a good impression, etc.

What I think happened to Sybil is that she was horribly abused by her mother and she used the different personalities as her defense mechanism. This type of behavior is quite prevalent in children or people in general that suffer abuse at the hands of their caretakers. Not everyone that is abused goes into some type of psychoses but usually there is some form of mental illness that requires treatment in the long run.

What a boring world this would be if we acted the same all the time.

:twocents:
I'm totally with you on this one. I don't mean the details because I haven't had time to read the information Rusty has provided yet, but the overall idea.;):thumbsup:

[María José]

Yes, Sybil was a person with a mental disorder. She had a multiple personality disorder (trastorno disociativo de personalidades múltiples).

Look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_%28book%29) to learn more about the real Sybil, a woman named Shirley Ardell Mason.
Sounds most interesting, Rusty. Thanks for the information. I'll try to read more about her when I have the time.:)

[poli]

I'm totally with you on this one. I don't mean the details because I haven't had time to read the information Rusty has provided yet, but the overall idea.;):thumbsup:

It's called compartmentalizing which is normal, but when taken to extreme it can be remarkable-- so remarkable that it has become fodder for popular entertainment more that once. I'm sure Mr. Hyde wasn't the first
alter ego. I'm sure Sybil won't be the last.

[CrOtALiTo]

Thank you, Maria I´ll wish my trip today, I´m going to Dos Bocas Tabasco, I miss you while.

[María José]

You know, Poli, I was thinking and maybe I do have a multiple-personality disorder. You know: Iris, Gemma and now María José...Just kidding.:D
But on a more serious note, there's something which I have always found fascinating. A lot of famous writers, poets, painters, composers ... have suffered and suffer from mental illnesses. Is it just a coincidence? Is it that we learn about it because they are famous? Or is it true, as some mental health professionals say, that a high IQ is often related to mental instability or neurological disease?
Some examples that come to mind are:
- Mary Lamb (who co-wrote Tales from Shakespeare)
- Sylvia Plath (though been married to Ted Hughes might have precipitated her tragic ending :?:)
- John Nash
- Iris Murdoch
- Goya
- Beethoven
- Mozart
And we could go on and on. I don't know but there seems to be a link between being a great artistic genius and suffering from 'depression' (a very blurry term, I know) :sad:
Sorry if this is getting too depressing (another redundancy) but it's cloudy at the moment in Madrid.... The thing is... I like cloudy!:D:D

[CrOtALiTo]

I've been thinking about of the persons with personality disorder, it's must ugly, I don't know, how it feel, but I believe what the persons with that type of problems known, are persons very specially in the world of the medicine, because their head are full of thinks without explain, it type of ill sound very interesting as the can people be varios persons at same time in a sole person, I don't imagine as the person can feel his head when the other person arrive to her mind, it types of ill exiting in the word sometimes are very strange, we don't know if to life together us now with a person with this ill, I feel fear when I've the idea of meet a person with varios pernalities, and I believe what the people so, they'll can be person risky in her life in around of my own life.

I feel woe for theses ones, I hope some exist some type of medical treatment for them.