Removing words
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Marsopa
October 16, 2008, 01:23 PM
I just read the list of words that are going to be removed from the dictionary! I don't think any of them should be removed. They are all great words and I think there are at least eight that are have the same root in Spanish. I knew quite a few of them, although I haven't used them lately:D! Nitid and mansuetude are great words, as is vilipend and several of the others.
What a dumb idea to take words like this out. Why would they??:thinking:
Rusty
October 16, 2008, 02:22 PM
Words come and go. These are words that serve no purpose, or so someone thinks. I would think, though, that if the words are in print somewhere, there ought to be a dictionary that lists their definition.
Marsopa
October 17, 2008, 09:23 AM
Yes, of course they come and go, but these are words that have not really gone. There are so many words in English in the dictionary that aren't used in speech even by educated people, but if we based the English Dictionary on which ones were actually used it would be instantly decimated. And these words aren't antiquated, just unusual and rare.
I really like having words like this in the dictionary!
CrOtALiTo
October 17, 2008, 10:43 AM
What kind of people thinks remove words from dictionary, and if you know that dictionary will be the affect.
Please you give or write me the words that would to be remove from dictionary.
Rusty
October 17, 2008, 10:54 AM
Look here.
http://www.tomisimo.org/blog/
CrOtALiTo
October 17, 2008, 11:27 AM
Now I understand, because sometimes I didn't find some words inside of the dictionary to Tomisimo, I don't agree with the chose of remove the words from dictionary, because the mostly I need use the dictionary as my own backup, you sometimes have wrote words that I don't know the meaning to them, and well if I don't know the meaning then never I won't understand the you wanna say in your post, please David there are a lot words that I don't find in your dictionary and it's necessary to me, for example Marposa wrote this vilipend, I don't know that meaning has it, and I tried to find him in the dictionary but, it does not exist in your dictionary.
Abstergent - Cleansing.
Agrestic - Rural.
Apodeictic - Unquestionably true by virtue of demonstration.
Caducity - Perishableness.
Caliginosity - Dimness.
Compossible - Possible in coexistence with something else.
Embrangle - To confuse.
Exuviate - To shed.
Fatidical - Prophetic.
Fubsy - Squat.
Griseous - Somewhat grey.
Malison - A curse.
Mansuetude - Gentleness.
Muliebrity - The condition of being a woman.
Niddering - Cowardly.
Nitid - Bright.
Olid - Foul-smelling.
Oppugnant - Combative.
Periapt - An amulet.
Recrement - Refuse.
Roborant - Tending to fortify.
Skirr - A whirring sound, as of the wings of birds in flight.
Vaticinate - Prophesy.
Vilipend - To treat with contempt.
All these words are very important in my leaning, because without them, a lot people will speak me in their language with that kind of words and I won't know that meaning it.
Rusty
October 17, 2008, 11:53 AM
It's likely you'll never hear anyone use these words, Crotalito. I don't believe I've ever heard anyone use them.
As I stated earlier, if these words are in print somewhere (I think we've taken care of that twice, now, and with definitions to boot! :)), they won't be lost (even if they're dropped from the dictionaries). They'll survive their 'demise.'
Tomisimo
October 17, 2008, 12:44 PM
From the post (http://www.tomisimo.org/blog/2008/wordiness/start-using-these-words/):For those of you who speak Spanish, can you spot the four words that are cognates of Spanish words commonly used today?This probably pretty easy for many of you... :)
Jessica
October 17, 2008, 01:06 PM
why are they getting removed, though?
CrOtALiTo
October 17, 2008, 04:03 PM
Because the words showed in the list are a lot old.
Rusty
October 17, 2008, 05:11 PM
Because the words shown in the list are very old.
Corrections above. :)
The words are not necessarily old, they're just very uncommon. No one uses them anymore.
Jessica, the blog tells you why they want to get rid of the words.
Jessica
October 17, 2008, 06:25 PM
oh, okay. now I got it. it isn't used much.
Now I understand, because sometimes I didn't find some words inside of the dictionary to Tomisimo, I don't agree with the chose of remove the words from dictionary, because the mostly I need use the dictionary as my own backup, you sometimes have wrote words that I don't know the meaning to them, and well if I don't know the meaning then never I won't understand the you wanna say in your post, please David there are a lot words that I don't find in your dictionary and it's necessary to me, for example Marposa wrote this vilipend, I don't know that meaning has it, and I tried to find him in the dictionary but, it does not exist in your dictionary.
Abstergent - Cleansing.
Agrestic - Rural.
Apodeictic - Unquestionably true by virtue of demonstration.
Caducity - Perishableness.
Caliginosity - Dimness.
Compossible - Possible in coexistence with something else.
Embrangle - To confuse.
Exuviate - To shed.
Fatidical - Prophetic.
Fubsy - Squat.
Griseous - Somewhat grey.
Malison - A curse.
Mansuetude - Gentleness.
Muliebrity - The condition of being a woman.
Niddering - Cowardly.
Nitid - Bright.
Olid - Foul-smelling.
Oppugnant - Combative.
Periapt - An amulet.
Recrement - Refuse.
Roborant - Tending to fortify.
Skirr - A whirring sound, as of the wings of birds in flight.
Vaticinate - Prophesy.
Vilipend - To treat with contempt.
All these words are very important in my leaning, because without them, a lot people will speak me in their language with that kind of words and I won't know that meaning it.
That's a lot of words :eek:
ElDanés
October 18, 2008, 12:58 AM
Words come and go all the time. Sometimes it's fine, other times not so fine. In this case the Time Magazine was just announcing it, making us, the majority, notice it - which we probably wouldn't have noticed, if it hadn't been announced. So, I honestly don't think one should make a big deal out of it - unless it is a somewhat common word, but this can always be discussed.
I wouldn't mind if languages never evolved, but that's now and again what they do. It would be funny though to run around speaking Old English globally, or Proto-Indo-European, or some superfamily? Oþþe ne?
to google (at google) was officially adopted into the Danish vocabulary last month, by the Danish Language Committee (Dansk Sprognævn). Personally, I don't think such word should be adopted, but for some reason they did. This is a case where it was not so fine, at least in my opinion. Nu vil jeg smutte videre og google lidt.
CrOtALiTo
October 18, 2008, 10:05 AM
You have said a great notice. jijijij.
Planet hopper
October 18, 2008, 02:02 PM
Answering to Tomissimo, not sure if I'm right, may be not cognates strictly speaking but similar words with differences in meaning.
Agrestic - Agreste (means rural, often used in media)
Caducity - Caducidad (I did not know this was an old word in English)
Fatidical - Fatidico (more negative than the English prophetical)
Griseous - Grisáceo (still widely used, means greyish/grayish)
Malison - Maldicion (curse, foul language)
Nitid - Nitido (clear)
Oppugnant - Oponente (at a fight / debate)
Vaticinate - Vaticinio (omen)
Vilipend - Vilipendiar, vilipendio (afrenta publica)
Agreste, nitido, vaticinio and vilipendiar are words that we could as well get rid of in Spanish, not often used.
Cheers, PH
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