Is personal 'a' correct here
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BobRitter
July 19, 2019, 04:49 PM
LearnWithOliver.com daily phrase has:
A los perros les encanta jugar.
Dogs love to play.
Since "Dogs" here refer to dogs in general not a pet is the "A" appropriate.
AngelicaDeAlquezar
July 19, 2019, 07:12 PM
The preposition "a" is appropriate here, because this is not a "personal a", but an indirect object, Bob. :)
In the sentence, the subject is "jugar", while the indirect object is "los perros".
A los perros les encanta jugar.
The verb "encantar" is just like "gustar". Although we tend to focus on the importance of the person or animal for whom a thing or an action is interesting, the actual subject is the thing.
Our fellow forum member, Poli, has a great tip: Treat the sentences with the verb "gustar/encantar/fascinar" as if they were like "this thing pleases me". In your sentence, "playing pleases the dogs".
This is a very difficult subject, Bob. Here are some links you might find useful to more conversations and examples about this topic, here (http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=10261), here (http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=23291), and here (http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=17653). If you need clarification or more explanations let me know. :)
poli
July 19, 2019, 07:59 PM
In addition to what Angelica writes and for your information dogs and other creatures that are dear to us, can be given the personal a just like humans.
Example:¿Diste al perro su comida?
Rusty
July 20, 2019, 12:35 AM
@poli
While it's true that we may choose to personify a pet, and use a personal 'a' to introduce a personified direct object, the dog in your sentence is the indirect object, introduced with the preposition 'a'.
Here is an example where a dog is the direct object, and personified.
Vi al perro, Gazpacho.
Here, the direct object is a dog that is not personified.
Vi el perro.
AngelicaDeAlquezar
July 20, 2019, 02:40 PM
I agree with Rusty. Some examples of "personal a" may be:
- ¿No oyes ladrar a los perros?
- Llevé a mi gato al veterinario.
- Nunca hay que cargar al conejo por las orejas.
- Durante todo mi gobierno trabajamos en impulsar al país hacia adelante.
BobRitter
July 20, 2019, 03:52 PM
Es complicado pero creo que entiendo.
Mas y mas me encanta la gramatica, me hace pensar y mantiene mi mente joven. Por lo menos espero que así!
Gracias.
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