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Tyrn
December 09, 2019, 10:40 AM
Hi,

Today I've learned that any Coleoptera bug es un escarabajo. Is there a way to pinpoint the specific way of life? I mean, making balls of dung for a living? Escarabajo de mierda is my first guess, probably incorrect :p .

poli
December 09, 2019, 12:00 PM
In Spanish escarabajo is, to my knowledge, a generic term for beetle. It certainly corresponds with the English term, scarab which is the dung beetle and not a Cleopatra bug. I looked up Cleopatra bug and found that it pertains to a certain class centipedes. Centipedes are not beetles and it would appear to be wrong to call them escarabajos. Be careful of that m word which translates as the English s word. These coarse words have their place, but lose their force if overused as is commonly done lately. Consider using heces or excremento instead.

Rusty
December 09, 2019, 01:10 PM
A dictionary gives three different ways to say 'dung beetle.' In order, according to number of hits on the internet:
escarabajo pelotero
escarabajo estercolero
escarabajo coprófrago

The Spanish word for any beetle is escarabajo. In English, we differentiate the various beetles by adding a descriptive adjective - Japanese beetle, June beetle, Scarab (beetle)/dung beetle, African Goliath beetle, etc. They do the same thing in Spanish.

Tyrn
December 10, 2019, 04:09 AM
Thanks!

To poli:

It isn't Cleopatra, it's Coleoptera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetle).

poli
December 10, 2019, 11:23 AM
Thanks!

To poli:

It isn't Cleopatra, it's Coleoptera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetle).

Oh, I thought it was a typo.

Sancho Panther
December 20, 2019, 10:06 AM
descriptive adjective is a tautology - there are no other kinds of adjective than descriptive ones.

AngelicaDeAlquezar
December 20, 2019, 01:49 PM
Oh no, Sancho. There are also possessive adjectives (my, your, ...), demonstrative adjectives (this, these, ...), ordinal adjectives (first, second, ...), and I'm sure I'm forgetting some others. ;)

Sancho Panther
December 21, 2019, 05:52 AM
The examples you cite don't alter the fact that that an adjective is always descriptive and descriptive adjective is still a tautology.

"My, your" and "This and these" are pronouns.

Rusty
December 25, 2019, 02:36 PM
@Sancho: Descriptive adjectives is correct terminology (see here (https://www.fluentu.com/blog/english/english-adjectives/)).
That site also gives examples of possessive adjectives, demonstrative adjectives, quantitative adjectives, distributive adjectives, and interrogative adjectives (the three English articles are also listed).

You'll find many sites that type English adjectives by function. The number varies. Some use different terminology.
Some classify possessive adjectives, demonstrative adjectives, quantitative adjectives, distributive adjectives, and articles as determiners. But even then I found them saying, "determiners, and other adjectives, precede the noun they modify," effectively lumping all of the types into one group.

No matter how you slice it, not all adjectives are alike. So, a term that describes them -a descriptive adjective- is often pressed into service.