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Elaina
October 18, 2009, 09:05 PM
¿Saben? Es cierto todo lo que han dicho al respecto pero tambien estoy con Jchen al decir que esto es una decisión personal. Cuando el gobierno comienza a dictar lo que puedes o no puedes hacer, entonces hay algo malo en eso.

En ningun momento estoy diciendo que el fumar es bueno lo que estoy diciendo es que las personas tienen el derecho a decidir por si mismo.

Cuando el gobierno decide que el fumar es nocivo para la salud y que debe haber alguna forma de regular el uso del tabaco, ¿porqué no cierra las companías que fabrican los cigarrillos asi como lo hace con los fabricantes de drogas?

Hay companías farmacéuticas que tienen que descontinuar algun medicamento cuando se comprueba que causa problemas de salud, ¿no es eso lo que está pasando con el tabaco?

Hay un refrán en español que dice........
*** Muriendose el perro, se acabó la rabia *********

Al no haber cigarrillos ni fabricantes de cigarrillos, entonces ya no hay problema.

Solo mis :twocents:

CrOtALiTo
October 19, 2009, 08:52 AM
Ahhh, so I think you meant to say "if you are smoker then you will tend to have some illness in the feature future." ¿Eso es?

Yes, exactly it was the that I meant before, future, I didn't write well the word.

I'm sorry so much.


Therefore if you are a smoker the most appropriate is that you will have a illness in a future, because as you know the cigarette is not good for the lungs and less for people who is around of you.

Yeah Elaina, but anyhow I don't believe that the cigarette's company disappear in a future near, because of those company depending a lot people speaking economic way, therefore I don't believe that someday it leaves to be sold in the street, then the that people leaves to smoke is only the capacity of person if has a voluntary strong, because if the person hasn't voluntary therefore this person will never leave to smoke in his life and so, his's has the expectation to has a severe illness.

Elaina
October 19, 2009, 09:18 AM
Yes, exactly it was the that I meant before, future, I didn't write well the word.

I'm sorry so much.


Therefore if you are a smoker the most appropriate is that you will have a illness in a future, because as you know the cigarette is not good for the lungs and less for people who is around of you.

Yeah Elaina, but anyhow I don't believe that the cigarette's company disappear in a future near, because of those company depending a lot people speaking economic way, therefore I don't believe that someday it leaves to be sold in the street, then the that people leaves to smoke is only the capacity of person if has a voluntary strong, because if the person hasn't voluntary therefore this person will never leave to smoke in his life and so, his's has the expectation to has a severe illness.

Isn't that the thinking for a drug addict? Both are addictions. Therefore treat it as such. It takes a lot more than just saying, okay I'll give it up! Please don't misinterpret what I am saying. I think it is bad to smoke, but I also believe people have a free will.

CrOtALiTo
October 19, 2009, 01:50 PM
Isn't that the thinking for a drug addict? Both are addictions. Therefore treat it as such. It takes a lot more than just saying, okay I'll give it up! Please don't misinterpret what I am saying. I think it is bad to smoke, but I also believe people have a free will.

Not, I won't misinterpret your commentary, but I believe that you can enter in perception in the that people shouldn't smoke, but well as it such, as you have said, everyone tend to be free.

Jessica
October 21, 2009, 10:55 AM
there are electronic cigarettes now. what do you think about those?

CrOtALiTo
October 21, 2009, 12:33 PM
Well I have never seen a electronic cigarette, but I don't understand. What it will use for?, Really I don't find any motive in special for create electronics cigarettes, therefore if you have any picture of the cigarettes please you should place them here..

ChicadeJeep
October 29, 2009, 01:52 PM
Smoking or the nicotine it contains is linked to lower incidence of Parkinson's disease. Some people with tremors claim that a cigarette temporarily reduces their symptoms. This has been documented.

Undocumented: I think the nicotine in tobacco is disagreeable to insects.
It it possible that mosquitos would be less attracted to you if there is
a cloud of tobacco smoke around you


Perhaps debo take up fumar again? Dejé aproximadamente 6.5 hace años, fui diagnosed con essential familial tremors 14 years ago - it has most likely become Parkinson's pero no tengo gone in to get rediagnosed. Cuando fumé, no tengo tremors. Tambien, mosquitos siempre bothered me!

Yes, you can eat what your wife cooks because you ahve no taste :lol::lol:

Maybe por eso mi esposo fumado por so long? Es no joke - Puedo no cook!

Lo siento para mi mix de inglés y español - ¡soy trying aprender!

Jessica
October 30, 2009, 03:35 PM
Well I have never seen a electronic cigarette, but I don't understand. What it will use for?, Really I don't find any motive in special for create electronics cigarettes, therefore if you have any picture of the cigarettes please you should place them here..


they're supposed to be healthier :P You know, no addiction or whatever. Let me find a picture for you


http://www.cateringequipmentshop.com/productimg/getimage.asp?img=16450.jpg

Electronic Cigarette (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette)

An electronic cigarette or "e-cigarette" is a battery-powered (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Battery-powered) device that provides inhaled (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Inhale) doses of nicotine (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Nicotine) by heating a nicotine-chemical solution into a vapor. It is an alternative to smoked (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Smoking) tobacco (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Tobacco) products, such as cigarettes (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Cigarette), cigars (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Cigar), or pipes (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Pipe_(smoking)). In addition to nicotine delivery, this vapor also provides a flavor (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Flavor) and physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Smoke), while no tobacco, smoke, or combustion (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Combustion) is actually involved in its operation.
An electronic cigarette usually takes the form of some manner of elongated tube, though many are designed to resemble the outward appearance of real smoking products, like cigarettes, cigars, and pipes. A common design is also the "pen-style", so named for its visual resemblance to a ballpoint pen (http://forums.tomisimo.org/wiki/Ballpoint_pen).


Doesn't really sound healthier than a regular cigarette though

CrOtALiTo
October 30, 2009, 04:39 PM
they're supposed to be healthier :P You know, no addiction or whatever. Let me find a picture for you


http://www.cateringequipmentshop.com/productimg/getimage.asp?img=16450.jpg

Electronic Cigarette (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette)




Doesn't really sound healthier than a regular cigarette though

Never I didn't hear before about those cigarettes, I think that it should be the same, because finally it's a cigarette and never it will leave to be bad for the body.

ookami
November 01, 2009, 01:49 PM
If they are healthier and all that, the grace would dissapear.

Jessica
November 02, 2009, 11:50 AM
They aren't healthier, in my opinion. The people that make them just want more people to smoke so they can make lots of money

CrOtALiTo
November 02, 2009, 11:52 AM
Yeah, as there are drugs there are people who want to die soon.

Jessica
November 02, 2009, 11:56 AM
Exactly

ookami
November 04, 2009, 07:43 PM
Well, the medicines are "drugs" too. And I can assure that a lot of smokers do it for pleasure, as you eat a chocolate cake (that is a lot worst than some cigarettes), and not thinking off dying sooner.

CrOtALiTo
November 04, 2009, 11:06 PM
If you've a style life healthy, I don't believe that eat chocolate cake is worst than smokes.

The cigarette most sooner than late it will collects the invoice in your life.

poli
November 05, 2009, 05:45 AM
Perhaps debo take up fumar again? Dejé aproximadamente 6.5 hace años, fui diagnosed con essential familial tremors 14 years ago - it has most likely become Parkinson's pero no tengo gone in to get rediagnosed. Cuando fumé, no tengo tremors. Tambien, mosquitos siempre bothered me!


Maybe por eso mi esposo fumado por so long? Es no joke - Puedo no cook!

Lo siento para mi mix de inglés y español - ¡soy trying aprender!
En serio los mál efectos de fumar son más dañinos que sus beneficios hasta para la gente que tiemble. En el caso de parkinson's, los buenos efectos de tobaco son limitados, pero si tiene un ataque de tembledera un cigarillo sin filtro (tipo Camel ayuda algunos pacientes). Vives en el norte. Entonces la temporada de insectos es corto. Es mejor aguantarlos hasta otoño que ya llegó. Es mejor hablar con el médico para ver lo que recomenda él o ella.

hermit
November 05, 2009, 08:54 AM
i went for acupuncture to quit cigarettes and haven't smoked them
ever since (20 years). i guess it worked.

hermit

CrOtALiTo
November 05, 2009, 11:33 AM
i went for acupuncture to quit cigarettes and haven't smoked them
ever since (20 years). i guess it worked.

hermit

It has worked in your case..


I know of people who uses a littles parch in the sky so they can leave to smoke in some times.:)

Jessica
November 05, 2009, 05:56 PM
i went for acupuncture to quit cigarettes and haven't smoked them
ever since (20 years). i guess it worked.

hermit

acupuncture is good :thumbsup: