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createdamadman
September 04, 2023, 09:25 PM
In the following, what is the "se" doing there? I know it's saying "Relax. It would never occur to me." But why is it not simply "Jamás me ocurriría"?


"Tranquila. Jamás se me ocurriría."

AngelicaDeAlquezar
September 04, 2023, 09:40 PM
Here's the explanation I gave to a similar question in this thread (http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?t=28609).



"Ocurrirle algo a alguien" => Something happened to the person
"Ocurrírsele algo a alguien" => Someone had an idea.

- Iba caminando por el bosque y entonces me ocurrió que caí en una trampa para oso.
I was walking in the woods and then it happened to me that I fell into a bear trap.
- Iba caminando por el bosque y entonces se me ocurrió que podría caer en una trampa para oso.
I was walking in the woods and then I thought that I could fall into a bear trap.

- Mi abuelo siempre compra boletos de lotería pero nunca le ocurre ganarla.
My grandfather always buys lotto tickets, but he never gets to win it.
- Mi abuelo siempre compra boletos de lotería pero nunca se le ocurre que no va a ganar nada.
My grandfather always buys lotto tickets, but he never thinks he'll never win anything.

- Estaba en la calle cuando le ocurrió que un auto lo atropelló.
He was in the street when it happened to him that a car ran him over.
- Estaba en la calle cuando se le ocurrió que podía comprar un auto.
He was in the street when it ocurred to him that he could buy a car.

- Volvernos ricos es algo que quisiéramos que nos ocurriera a todos.
To become rich is something that we all would like to happen to us.
- Cómo volvernos ricos es algo que quisiéramos que se nos ocurriera a todos.
We all would like to find an effective way to become rich.

- Sólo a Wile E. Coyote le ocurre que le caiga un yunque del cielo.
Only Wile E. Coyote gets hit by an anvil falling from the sky.
- Sólo a Wile E. Coyote se le ocurre cazar un correcaminos con un yunque.
Only Wile E. Coyote can think of hunting a roadrunner with an anvil.


If you have more questions, I'll be happy to answer them. ;)