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FrannyCakes
July 10, 2009, 06:46 PM
Hi,

I'm a mid-beginner Spanish student (currently teaching myself, because school's out).

I'm really overwhelmed by the order of direct and indirect objects. With all the dang le's and te's and se's, it gets REALLY confusing REALLY fast.

Subject + Indirect Object + Direct Object + Verb

^Is this the right word order?

I'd appreciate any help you can offer. Thanks.

Rusty
July 10, 2009, 09:06 PM
Technically, such a rigid rule won't always serve you well, but what you wrote is correct (if you're talking about the object pronouns, which is what I suppose you meant to write).

In Spanish, the subject doesn't have to precede the verb.
If you don't list it, the order is IOP + DOP + Verb.

When the verb is in the infinitive or the imperative, however, the object pronouns are suffixed to the verb and an accent marks the stressed syllable in the verb. In this case, the order is verb+IOP+DOP.

Welcome to the forums!!!

CrOtALiTo
July 10, 2009, 09:27 PM
You are speaking about the verbs in Spanish.

Tomisimo
July 10, 2009, 11:48 PM
Welcome to the forums, FrannyCakes.



the subject can go before or after the verb.
the pronouns

the indirect object pronoun should come before the direct object pronoun, if you have both.
the pronouns (in the correct order) go directly before conjugated verbs, or directly after verbs in the infinitive or present participle.
the indirect object pronouns "le" and "les" change to "se" when followed by a direct object pronoun.




{||}subject | indirect object pronoun | direct object pronoun | verb | subject | meaning

{|}(Yo)|te|lo|di | (yo)
{|}I | to you | it | give || I gave it to you
{|}-
{|}(Yo)|se | lo| di |(yo)
{|}I | to him | it | give || I gave it to him

{||}subject | verb | indirect & direct object pronoun |subject
{|}(Yo)|quiero|dártelo | (yo)
{|}I | want | to give it to you
{|} -
{|}(Yo)|quiero | dárselo | (yo)
{|}I | want | to give it to him

irmamar
July 11, 2009, 03:03 PM
Remember that in Spanish the IO is usually duplicated:

Me lo dio a mí
¿Te contó a ti toda la historia?

CrOtALiTo
July 11, 2009, 03:13 PM
I would say it of other way.

Me lo ha dado a mi.

Here you can use the participles.

Tomisimo
July 11, 2009, 04:27 PM
I would say it of other way.

Me lo ha dado a mi.

Here you can use the participles.
Please try to stay on topic. The topic of this thread is the word order for indirect and direct object pronouns.