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laepelba
December 05, 2009, 01:10 PM
Fascinating explanations!! Thanks, all, for these discussions. I am thinking that I need to take some kind of class in the "History of the Spanish Language". :)
irmamar
December 05, 2009, 01:18 PM
I must add that there are some combination of consonants that can't be divided: b/c/f/p + l/r, d/t + r:
Fran-cia, es-cla-vo, re-do-ble, dra-ma, a-trac-ti-vo.
I don't know the reason, but it sounds goo to my ears :thinking:
AngelicaDeAlquezar
December 05, 2009, 01:24 PM
If Steven Spielberg were to be divided in Spanish syllables, it should be:
S·te·ven
S·piel·berg
"S" alone is unthinkable and impossible to pronounce for a Spanish speaker with no training in foreign languages, so the first impulse is to add an "e" to that lonely "s".
laepelba
December 05, 2009, 01:27 PM
If Steven Spielberg were to be divided in Spanish syllables, it should be:
S·te·ven
S·piel·berg
"S" alone is unthinkable and impossible to pronounce for a Spanish speaker with no training in foreign languages, so the first impulse is to add an "e" to that lonely "s".
Therefore, Esteban Espielberg. :)
pjt33
December 05, 2009, 01:46 PM
"S" alone is unthinkable and impossible to pronounce for a Spanish speaker with no training in foreign languages, so the first impulse is to add an "e" to that lonely "s".
Impensable quizás, pero imposible no. He oído a españoles probar micrófonos con un "sí" extendido que es casí todo /s/. Fácilmente podrían parar antes de la /i/.
irmamar
December 05, 2009, 02:01 PM
I guess the difficulty consists of "s" before a plosive (sp, sk, st, ...). It's easy to say "sssssí", it's difficult to say "Sssssspielberg".
Perikles
December 06, 2009, 01:40 AM
it's difficult to say "Sssssspielberg".No it's not, it's very easy. :D:D:D .
In English, you can have more consonants in one syllable, for example scream is one syllable. (So is chthonic, but that doesn't really count)
But thanks anyway for the explantions. :)
irmamar
December 06, 2009, 11:27 AM
No it's not, it's very easy. :D:D:D .
In English, you can have more consonants in one syllable, for example scream is one syllable. (So is chthonic, but that doesn't really count)
But thanks anyway for the explantions. :)
It must be easy, but not for me :D
But... chthonic? :confused: Does it exist?
laepelba
December 06, 2009, 11:32 AM
I've never heard the word "chthonic" either, but if you type "define:chthonic" into Google, you'll get some interesting definitions. And ...... it seems to be closely related to a Greek word, so I'm not sure that Perikles is playing fair when he uses that as an example of an English word with a bunch of consonants in one syllable.......... :)
I also found this website that says the word for you: http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=chthonic&submit=Submit - sounds like it doesn't even pronounce the initial "ch" sound........
irmamar
December 06, 2009, 11:46 AM
I thought it was "gin tonic" with "drunk" accent :D
- W(rrr)aittter! Annnnother chthonic, pleassse! :lol:
By the way, I can't find this definition.
Sorry, yes, I can :)
pjt33
December 06, 2009, 11:51 AM
Strength. One syllable, one vowel.
laepelba
December 06, 2009, 11:51 AM
I thought it was "gin tonic" with "drunk" accent :D
- W(rrr)aittter! Annnnother chthonic, pleassse! :lol:
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Perikles
December 07, 2009, 02:31 AM
It must be easy, but not for me :D
But... chthonic? :confused: Does it exist?Of course it does! An adjective relating to the Earth.
so I'm not sure that Perikles is playing fair when he uses that as an example of an English word with a bunch of consonants in one syllable................Hay, I did say that it didn't count :rolleyes: It (of course) derives from Greek χθόνος which has two consonants at the beginning. But you need two consonants in the Roman alphabet for χ=ch and two for θ=th
So it really only counts as 2 consonants.
By the way, this is the reason that you get 'h' letters in English words which don't get pronounced, because they derive from Greek consonants which need 2 letters in the Latin alphabet. So (Jesus) Christ from χριστος :)
Perikles
December 09, 2009, 01:52 AM
But... chthonic? :confused: Does it exist?Actually, I have just found the same word contained in a word in Spanish: autóctonos except that the spelling has been modified so that the ch-> c and the th-> t.
This simplified spelling hides a lot of things, for example tanatorio where the first t hides a th but the second one doesn't. :)
CrOtALiTo
December 09, 2009, 01:54 PM
If my memory serves me right we say:
Summer´s day
winter´s day
spring day
fall/autumn day
Is that correct
The first one is right.
hermit
December 09, 2009, 04:43 PM
chthonic counts - good one.
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