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irmamar
January 17, 2010, 12:14 PM
My book says that "cards" is an uncount noun ending in -s, but I'm not sure its meaning. When I look for it in Wordreference, the only thing I see uncountable is with the meaning of "cartulina", but there's no -s in card. And card as carta (de juego) is countable.
By the way, why is marked "uncount" in red? My book says "uncount nouns" or "mass nouns". Isn't this word correct? :thinking:
Thanks. :)
Perikles
January 17, 2010, 01:06 PM
You can have a game of cards (naipes).
Yesterday, I played bridge with some friends, which is a game of cards played by four people. (Actually, this is true - I did. - And bridge is a fantastic game).
There are 52 cards in a pack (baraja) of bridge cards. :)
laepelba
January 17, 2010, 01:07 PM
And I often have cards at my house. That is to say that my friends come over and we play pinochle.
irmamar
January 18, 2010, 12:36 AM
Pero los naipes son contables. :thinking:
Perikles
January 18, 2010, 01:08 AM
True. I can't think what your book could mean with 'cards' as uncountable, unless in the expression I play cards, cards counts as an uncountable noun. It would be different if you said I play with cards - here they are countable. :thinking:
pjt33
January 18, 2010, 02:25 AM
¿Hay algunas pistas del contexto?
irmamar
January 18, 2010, 03:13 AM
Right nown I don't have any example of this word. Let me advance for if I find some example.
Ambarina
January 18, 2010, 03:32 AM
My book says that "cards" is an uncount noun ending in -s, but I'm not sure its meaning. When I look for it in Wordreference, the only thing I see uncountable is with the meaning of "cartulina", but there's no -s in card. And card as carta (de juego) is countable.
By the way, why is marked "uncount" in red? My book says "uncount nouns" or "mass nouns". Isn't this word correct? :thinking:
Thanks. :)
Cuando se refiere al juego de naipes, "Cards" es incontable y por lo tanto no podrías decir "I play card on Saturday night with my friends". Como en Castellano, se usa la forma "plural"(entendiéndose que aquí "cards" no es estrictamente plural): Juego a las cartas con mis amigos/I play cards with my friends.
Si te refieres a la baraja sería a "pack/deck of cards" y aquí "cards" es contable ya que, como dijiste anteriormente, las cartas/los naipes se pueden contar: give me one card, two cards, three cards, etc.
pjt33
January 18, 2010, 05:08 AM
Right nown I don't have any example of this word. Let me advance for if I find some example.
Me refería a, por ejemplo, si el capítulo del libro tiene algún tema (quizás el ocio).
CrOtALiTo
January 18, 2010, 09:55 AM
The word make come to the mind that cards could some kind to game in the casino.
irmamar
January 18, 2010, 11:03 AM
Me refería a, por ejemplo, si el capítulo del libro tiene algún tema (quizás el ocio).
This is a grammar section, just mass nouns. There are another ones (bowls, classics, darts, draughts, etc.). That is, uncount nouns ending in -s.
laepelba
January 18, 2010, 11:08 AM
This is a grammar section, just mass nouns. There are another ones (bowls, classics, darts, draughts, etc.). That is, uncount nouns ending in -s.
Not sure about some of those. Maybe I don't understand exactly how they're "uncount" nouns.......
irmamar
January 18, 2010, 11:11 AM
Tea, milk, etc. are uncount nouns.
laepelba
January 18, 2010, 11:12 AM
Right - I get that. In fact, I am fairly sure what noncount nouns are. But I don't know that I would agree with "bowls, darts, droughts" specifically.....
irmamar
January 18, 2010, 11:16 AM
There are several: linguistics, mathematics, measles, mumps, physics, rickets. I have to get them into groups, depending on its subject, but it's not important. I think I understand that darts or cards are uncount nouns when you're playing with them (though I can count them).
laepelba
January 18, 2010, 11:18 AM
If you're looking to organize them, try this website: http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/nouns/noncount.htm - it's a little elementary in its layout, but has specific groups of noncount nouns with multiple examples of each.
Perikles
January 18, 2010, 11:18 AM
Right - I get that. In fact, I am fairly sure what noncount nouns are. But I don't know that I would agree with "bowls, darts, droughts" specifically.....I see what is happening - Clearly in the singular, these nouns are countable, because you can have one or several cards, bowls, darts and draughts (don't you say checkers?:D).
But in the plural used as a (singular) game, these words are classified as uncountable. :thinking::)
Edit:
I like playing tennis
I like playing chess
(both definitely uncountable)
I like playing cards .....
irmamar
January 18, 2010, 11:21 AM
But are they plural nouns really? I mean, I use them with the verb in singular: linguistics is a subject.
laepelba
January 18, 2010, 11:31 AM
I see what is happening - Clearly in the singular, these nouns are countable, because you can have one or several cards, bowls, darts and draughts (don't you say checkers?:D).
But in the plural used as a (singular) game, these words are classified as uncountable. :thinking::)
Edit:
I like playing tennis
I like playing chess
(both definitely uncountable)
I like playing cards .....
I'll give you "darts" as the name of the game and a noncount noun. "Let's play a game of darts." Singular, yet with an "s". But I still don't like "bowls" or "droughts". (I'm quoting Irmamar here, and she used "droughts", which I take to mean lack of water for a period of time. In BrE, "draught" means what we call "draft" in AmE.)
But are they plural nouns really? I mean, I use them with the verb in singular: linguistics is a subject.
I agree! Linguistics, Economics, etc. They are NOT plural nouns. I can take a class in linguistics or economics. I don't know that I could imagine an instance for using the word "linguistic" or "economic" as a noun. (They ARE adjectives, though.)
Perikles
January 18, 2010, 11:32 AM
But are they plural nouns really? I mean, I use them with the verb in singular: linguistics is a subject.No, I don't think so. I would say Cards are great fun. So are bowls. :thinking:
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