To hold
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irmamar
January 19, 2010, 10:46 AM
To hold has several meanings. I need one used as a reporting verb, but I must know if it is used reporting both what somebody said or what somebody thought. So I'd like to know if I'm able to say:
I hold my opinion - mantengo mi opinión
I hold a conversation - mantengo una conversación
Are both sentences correct?
Thanks.
Perikles
January 19, 2010, 11:02 AM
I hold my opinion - mantengo mi opinión :bad:
'I hold an opinion' = I have a specific opinion. :good:
If the opinion does not change, I still hold the same opinion:good:
I hold a conversation - mantengo una conversación:good:
Also: I can hold my own in any discussion (although that is a specific idiom):)
irmamar
January 19, 2010, 11:04 AM
Then, how would you say "mantengo mi opinión sobre este tema"?
Perikles
January 19, 2010, 11:08 AM
Then, how would you say "mantengo mi opinión sobre este tema"?I maintain my opinion on this topic. (Almost word for word) :)
irmamar
January 19, 2010, 11:11 AM
I maintain my opinion on this topic. (Almost word for word) :)
I have this verb, too, "maintain". So "maintain" would be referred to something that somebody said and "hold" would be to what somebody thought. Am I correct? :)
Perikles
January 19, 2010, 11:16 AM
I have this verb, too, "maintain". So "maintain" would be referred to something that somebody said and "hold" would be to what somebody thought. Am I correct? :)Ah no - sorry.
To hold = to have, so that to have an opinion = to hold an opinion.
To maintain = keep the same
If, say, you held an opinion, and somebody discussed it and provided more information to change your opinion, but which you don't change, then you maintain the opinion, i.e still hold the same one..
irmamar
January 19, 2010, 11:19 AM
So, both of them are related to the thought, not to the saying, aren't them? :thinking:
Perikles
January 19, 2010, 11:25 AM
So, both of them are related to the thought, not to the saying, aren't them?:eek: (they) :thinking:You could imagine a conversation:
A: Do you have any thoughts on this subject?
B: Yes, I hold a strong opinion, because bla bla bla...
A: And did you know that bla bla bla ....
B: No, I didn't, but I still maintain my opinion...
irmamar
January 19, 2010, 11:29 AM
You could imagine a conversation:
A: Do you have any thoughts on this subject?
B: Yes, I hold a strong opinion, because bla bla bla...
A: And did you know that bla bla bla ....
B: No, I didn't, but I still maintain my opinion...
I didn't know you used "bla, bla, bla", too :D
Thanks. :) :rose:
pjt33
January 19, 2010, 11:31 AM
I maintain my opinion on this topic.
That sounds marked to me (and the BNC doesn't contain a single instance of someone talking about maintaining an opinion).
I stand by my opinion.
That doesn't change my opinion.
irmamar
January 19, 2010, 11:36 AM
Wordreference says "mantener una ideología".
I see now that it can mean "claim", too. So, I could say "maintain" with the meaning of "reclamar" (I guess related to saying).
Perikles
January 19, 2010, 11:38 AM
That sounds marked to me (and the BNC doesn't contain a single instance of someone talking about maintaining an opinion).
I stand by my opinion.
That doesn't change my opinion.Yes, your suggestions certainly seem more natural.
Wordreference says "mantener una ideología".
I see now that it can mean "claim", too. So, I could say "maintain" with the meaning of "reclamar" (I guess related to saying).Yes, in the course of an argument:
A: I think that bla bla....
B: What about bla bla..?
A: Yes, but I still maintain that ...
irmamar
January 19, 2010, 11:43 AM
OK, thanks. :)
AngelicaDeAlquezar
January 19, 2010, 12:52 PM
Can someone hold on to his/her opinion? :thinking:
pjt33
January 19, 2010, 01:19 PM
Can someone hold on to his/her opinion? :thinking:
I don't think so, and I don't find any examples of it in BNC.
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