Final Grammar project

[Jessica]

I am working with a partner on a final grammar project. I am doing the following concepts (we are not done picking, there are still 2 left for us to pick)

Reflexive verbs
saber vs. conocer
uses of imperfect
future tense
affirmative tú form commands
negative tú form commands
forms of subjunctive
use of subjunctive
possessive pronouns
present progressive

The explanations will be in English

is this explanation for reflexive verbs good?

Reflexive verbs are actions that someone does to or for himself or herself. There are two parts – the verb and a reflexive pronoun.


{||}-- | --
{|}me | nos
{|}te | --
{|}se | se


This is an example – ducharse
(yo) me ducho
(tú) te duchas
(él, ella, Ud.) se ducha
(nosotros, nosotras) nos duchamos
(ellos, ellas, Uds.) se duchan
 

[Rusty]

This seems good enough. The subject (what you put in parentheses) and the object (the reflexive pronoun) are one in the same.

[CrOtALiTo]

Jessica.

Good job.
I can see that you have made everything well.
Please you continue with your learning.

[Jessica]

Thanks :)

Now onto Saber vs. Conocer



Saber - to know how to do something
conocer - to be familiar with, acquainted with

Saber is for knowing how to do something and conocer is applied to people



I need a better explanation than this...:/

[chileno]

Thanks :)

Now onto Saber vs. Conocer



Saber - to know how to do something
conocer - to be familiar with, acquainted with

Saber is for knowing how to do something and conocer is applied to people (or places)



I need a better explanation than this...:/


Try some examples of your own, according to your understanding.

[Jessica]

Examples:
Using saber
¿Sabes como tomar la guitarra? Do you know how to play the guitar?
¿Do you know where the pharmacy is?


Using conocer
¿Conoces el señor Lopez? Do you know Mr. Lopez?

[chileno]

Examples:
Using saber
¿Sabes como tomar la guitarra? Do you know how to play the guitar?
¿Do you know where the pharmacy is?


Using conocer
¿Conoces el señor Lopez? Do you know Mr. Lopez?

Perfect.

Now, consider this:

¿Sabes dónde está la farmacia?

¿Conoces el camino a la farmacia?

¿Conoces a Mr. López?

¿Sabes dónde está Mr. López?


Can you tell the difference in usage?

[tacuba]

Examples:
Using saber
¿Sabes como tomar la guitarra? Do you know how to play the guitar?


This doesn't sound right to me. First, I think you meant "tocar". Second, I thought with the verb "saber", the "how" is implied, with no need to use "como".

¿Sabes tocar la guitarra?

[CrOtALiTo]

Examples:
Using saber
¿Sabes como tomar la guitarra? Do you know how to play the guitar?
¿Do you know where the pharmacy is?


Using conocer
¿Conoces el señor Lopez? Do you know Mr. Lopez?

They are correct.

But you could consider.
You know something about the quality of the IT service.
Tu sabes de algo sobre la calidad de los servicios de IT.

This is a simple example.:)

[chileno]

This doesn't sound right to me. First, I think you meant "tocar". Second, I thought with the verb "saber", the "how" is implied, with no need to use "como".

¿Sabes tocar la guitarra?

And if someone ask you about positioning the guitar against your body? ;)

What then?:eek:

[Jessica]

do you guys know where I can find examples of the present progressive, like in any song lyrics or something?? please answer asap. project due June 2

[wafflestomp]

do you guys know where I can find examples of the present progressive, like in any song lyrics or something?? please answer asap. project due June 2
I don't know of a song, but it's a very easy tense to learn.

It's just like saying "I'm walking" in English, but it has to be at that present moment. It can't be the future like we do in English -- "I'm going to the beach tomorrow" you can't do that in Spanish.

ex: Estoy andando - I am walking
Estoy leyendo - I am reading

You can use the progressive to talk about the future if you mention the method of transport though.. like for example : Estoy cogiendo el bús a la ferreteria " -- I am taking the bus to the hardware.

It's very simple.. you can look up more online.

And also, why leave out poor "os" in your lesson on your original post?

[chileno]

It's just like saying "I'm walking" in English, but it has to be at that present moment. It can't be the future like we do in English

-- "I'm going to the beach tomorrow" you can't do that in Spanish.


Sure you can.

Estoy yendo a la playa mañana. (That's a plan!) :)

[Jessica]

lol I already know about the present progressive it's really easy. I just need a source for my project

[wafflestomp]

Sure you can.

Estoy yendo a la playa mañana. (That's a plan!) :)
From what I was taught you can never use it to talk about the future.. this is what I was told by my aunt who's from Spain when I said "I am coming next week"

En español no usamos el presente continuo para decir frases como "Yo vengo a las siete". To explain in English, never use the present continuous with a future event. You can say "Estoy viniendo por la puerta" -- only if she is actually at the door, to explain.

También usamos ese tiempo verbal cuando una persona está realizando la acción en ese mismo instante...por ejemplo, mi madre está haciendo la cena. En este caso quiero decir con esa frase que mi madre está cocinando en ese instante en el que lo digo.
Sin embargo, si tu madre está de camino hacia tu casa, sí que decimos en español está viniendo, pero solo en el caso de que ya haya cogido el medio de transporte. Por ejemplo si ya ha cogido el metro, autobús etc.. o si está viniendo andando ok?? "Mi madre está viniendo en el metro" - My mom is coming on the subway. Pero si aún no ha cogido el medio de transporte, simplemente decimos: "Ahora viene mi madre" (sin usar el presente continuo)

Is it just a regional thing then?

[Elaina]

Estoy yendo a la playa mañana.???:confused::thinking::confused::thinking ::confused::thinking:

Podrá ser correcto pero suena muy extraño. Para mi.....

Now as far as ....

¿Conoces el Sr. Lopez?

shouldn't it be...

¿Conoces al Sr. Lopez?

My :twocents:

[chileno]

Estoy yendo a la playa mañana.???:confused::thinking::confused::thinking ::confused::thinking:

Podrá ser correcto pero suena muy extraño. Para mi.....

Now as far as ....

¿Conoces el Sr. Lopez?

shouldn't it be...

¿Conoces al Sr. Lopez?

My :twocents:

Did I use el? Yes It should be al. :-)

As to "mañana estoy yendo a la playa", it might sound weird to you. But I don't think to Spanish speaking people.

I do consider you speak very well Spanish, so I would ask you to search in your mind a context in which this phrase could be used. :)

[Jessica]

any song lyrics with present progressive? :S

[Brandon]

Go to a spanish lyric website (letras de canciones), start clicking random songs and use your browser to search for (ctrl F or command F) "ndo". More often than not it's a word in the present progressive. :)

[irmamar]

any song lyrics with present progressive? :S

In this (http://www.rickycorreo.com/letras/1350.txt) one you can find some (now I can't think of another song with present progressive :thinking: ) :)

Bueno, he visto alguna falta de ortografía. :mad: