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ROBINDESBOIS
July 25, 2010, 07:23 AM
Elaina Did you ever get to go to Italy?

JPablo
July 25, 2010, 07:45 AM
I´m going to start playing the lottery, I´m getting tired of my ungrateful job. Pablo you said you work in California, is there a job for me over there?

I think there are jobs anywhere in Planet Earth... In California I have worked as a printer (silk-screen printing = serigrafía) typesetter (tipógrafo), translator, interpreter, editor, voice talent (locutor), public relations, and like and old friend of mine used to say "y lo que no sé, me lo invento"... :) I think it all depends on what you want to do in life, what is the game you want to play... (I love basketball, by the by... although I do not practice much lately.) At any rate, not sure if you are joking about it or not, but it is not always easy to come to the US and be able to work here, i.e., I am a resident now for more than 10 years, or so, while in my previous 10 years I was renewing my visas... I believe on the maxim, "si la vida te da limones, hazte una buena limonada" and "más vale lo malo conocido que lo bueno por conocer". I.e., I would think you could change the same ungrateful job you are doing into something that would be more fulfilling for you, if you decided to change your considerations about it... Maybe that is easier said that done, but I've seen it happening...
I understand that sometimes the maxim "recogemos lo que sembramos" does not quite work, i.e., we keep sowing without getting anything back... yet, I believe it is ultimately true...

ROBINDESBOIS
July 25, 2010, 01:01 PM
I think there are jobs anywhere in Planet Earth... In California I have worked as a printer (silk-screen printing = serigrafía) typesetter (tipógrafo), translator, interpreter, editor, voice talent (locutor), public relations, and like and old friend of mine used to say "y lo que no sé, me lo invento"... :) I think it all depends on what you want to do in life, what is the game you want to play... (I love basketball, by the by... although I do not practice much lately.) At any rate, not sure if you are joking about it or not, but it is not always easy to come to the US and be able to work here, i.e., I am a resident now for more than 10 years, or so, while in my previous 10 years I was renewing my visas... I believe on the maxim, "si la vida te da limones, hazte una buena limonada" and "más vale lo malo conocido que lo bueno por conocer". I.e., I would think you could change the same ungrateful job you are doing into something that would be more fulfilling for you, if you decided to change your considerations about it... Maybe that is easier said that done, but I've seen it happening...
I understand that sometimes the maxim "recogemos lo que sembramos" does not quite work, i.e., we keep sowing without getting anything back... yet, I believe it is ultimately true...

Defenetly, no siempre recogemos lo que sembramos

Elaina
July 26, 2010, 01:17 AM
Elaina Did you ever get to go to Italy?

Not yet......come September I'll be packing my bags and off to Italia I will be.

I'm getting very excited and anxious and impatient. Time goes by so sloooow....

;)

Elaina
July 26, 2010, 01:19 AM
I think there are jobs anywhere in Planet Earth... In California I have worked as a printer (silk-screen printing = serigrafía) typesetter (tipógrafo), translator, interpreter, editor, voice talent (locutor), public relations, and like and old friend of mine used to say "y lo que no sé, me lo invento"... :) I think it all depends on what you want to do in life, what is the game you want to play... (I love basketball, by the by... although I do not practice much lately.) At any rate, not sure if you are joking about it or not, but it is not always easy to come to the US and be able to work here, i.e., I am a resident now for more than 10 years, or so, while in my previous 10 years I was renewing my visas... I believe on the maxim, "si la vida te da limones, hazte una buena limonada" and "más vale lo malo conocido que lo bueno por conocer". I.e., I would think you could change the same ungrateful job you are doing into something that would be more fulfilling for you, if you decided to change your considerations about it... Maybe that is easier said that done, but I've seen it happening...
I understand that sometimes the maxim "recogemos lo que sembramos" does not quite work, i.e., we keep sowing without getting anything back... yet, I believe it is ultimately true...

So are you......"jack of all trades, master of none? My father used to say that. He did everything and he was always quite happy with himself.

You sound happy all the time. Maybe that's the secret to happiness, a little of this, a little of that, etc.

Kudos to you! :thumbsup:

irmamar
July 26, 2010, 01:21 AM
Welcome back, Robin (pobrecito :sad: ). ;)

¡Qué bien, Elaina! Pronto a Italia. L'Italia è bella, ti piazerá tanto! Sono sicura. :)

Elaina
July 26, 2010, 01:26 AM
Welcome back, Robin (pobrecito :sad: ). ;)

¡Qué bien, Elaina! Pronto a Italia. L'Italia è bella, ti piazerá tanto! Sono sicura. :)

Grazie, lo spero. :dancingman:

Necesito estas vacaciones como respirar. Pero, soy impaciente...:sad:

:rolleyes:

irmamar
July 26, 2010, 01:36 AM
Ánimo, que el tiempo vuela. Y mientras, a estudiar italiano. ;) :)

Elaina
July 26, 2010, 01:41 AM
Siempre pensé que sería fácil el italiano pero veo que estaba equivocada. Para algunas palabras el saber español definitivamente me ha ayudado pero a veces termino hablando español en vez de italiano. Mi cerebro está confundido. Y vieras que eso no es muy dificil. Pero hay que seguir intentándolo.:blackeye:

:)

irmamar
July 26, 2010, 01:44 AM
A mí me pasa con el catalán: cuando no sé una palabra en italiano, la digo en catalán. También me pasa en inglés. Debe ser por el tema del almacenamiento de los idiomas en el cerebro. :thinking:

Elaina
July 26, 2010, 01:54 AM
Esa explicación me gusta... :D

JPablo
July 26, 2010, 02:38 AM
So are you......"jack of all trades, master of none? My father used to say that. He did everything and he was always quite happy with himself.

You sound happy all the time. Maybe that's the secret to happiness, a little of this, a little of that, etc.

Kudos to you! :thumbsup:

Hi, Elaina, maybe so... although I try to be as professional as I can on anything I do, and don't live an 'amateur' life. When I started doing typography I learned about Benjamin Franklin, (he was a printer too, besides many other things...) and kind of took him as a reference point... I have always tried to "know" not just the theory of things, but also "how you do it," how do you apply and put into practice your "knowledge"... how can you effectively help yourself, help others and be ready to accept help from others 'despite' any misguided idea of 'pride'.

When I was a kid (probably I am still one...) I learned about humanism, and about the big Renaissance guys, Da Vinci, Michelangelo... you name it (Galileo!) and many others. These guys were striving for a "total knowledge" I could say...

To me, happiness is "going towards a known goal through known [or not totally unknown] barriers". Every time you reach a 'target' you wanted to reach, every time you do or achieved that which you wanted to achieve, you are that much happier... every time you don't do what you don't want to do, you are that much happier. When we do things we don't want to do, we are not happy, when we fall short in achieving our objectives, our reach is blunted... Well, that's is all "theory", but when you see it working in life, you see you can effectively help another, even if only with a word of encouragement... or in your profession considering you have helped not just "the body" of an injured person, but the person himself/herself... that in itself, could be and is rewarding...
I don't know, both of my parents were teachers and I am familiar with the kind of 'heartbreaks' the educational system in Spain can give someone... so I kind of relate to what Robin may be feeling (aunque no estoy en su pellejo, y cada cual sabe mejor que nadie lo que pasa)... and like everybody else I can have rough days... (although I must recognize I have had not many of these in the last... mmmh... well I don't give any figure in terms of years...,)

At any rate, thank you for the kudos, we all like to be admired, and so, the more we admire (and help others) the more we can get that "flow" back...

You remind me the classic "Le Petit Prince" by Saint-Exupéry, when the fox talks to the Little Prince about a "ritual", and how he will be happy waiting for the hour when they will meet... and then how when the Little Prince is gone, he will be happy watching the corn/wheat yellow fields remembering his blond hair...

You can enjoy this pre-travel to Italy... with your eagerness to learn about it, see places... (Oh, boy, oh, Italy is such a wonderful country... I particularly fell in love with Florence, Firenza! when I went there, when I was 16 or 17... "Ma va, che roba! (Bella roba!)" = Good stuff)

You can enjoy your travel (you will, I know, "lo so" = I know...)
And you can enjoy when you are back, remembering the good time... and looking forward for another one...

I think we are back to the old subject of the "glass half-empty or half-full" or the broken glass... As long as the glass is not broken, I like to consider the "half-fullness" of things... :)
(Without closing my eyes to the many --too-many unfortunately, too-- broken glasses around us... I know that 'something can be done about it' no matter how small...)

hermit
July 26, 2010, 07:09 AM
Hi Robin - what's your field of work?