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NiCACHiCA
September 14, 2010, 07:40 PM
I've found a few threads on here concerning the topic, but they seem to make me more confused than anything. Many times it seems they start to stray from the original topic or it's hard to distinguish between what would be considered normal and what is vulgar.

Having said that, I'm having a hard time translating "you're a jerk" into (AmC) Spanish? Not looking for bad language or anything vulgar, just if someone does something mean and you call them a jerk.

Thanks in advance!

chileno
September 14, 2010, 07:42 PM
You are an idiot/stupid.

That will suffice. It isn't bad language or vulgar.

NiCACHiCA
September 14, 2010, 08:11 PM
You are an idiot/stupid.

That will suffice. It isn't bad language or vulgar.


Are you saying in Spanish you would call them "idiota" or "estúpido"?

In Spanish, does idiota and estupido not attack more the person than just the action that they did? It seems in English idiot/stupid is more personal whereas calling someone a jerk is more related to some (mean) action they've done to you that has hurt you? (Hope that makes sense).

Is tirón a word recognized in Central America that you can use for "jerk"? Or is it stronger than "jerk"? And is it considered bad language?

Rusty
September 14, 2010, 08:32 PM
tirón = jerk (as in a rapid movement)

Calling someone a 'jerk' has many connotations in English. You could mean it in a mild sense (you can even call your best friend a jerk without offending). Or you could mean it in the worst sense. What do you want to say?
There are several Spanish words, from mild to extremely vulgar, that will fit the bill.

NiCACHiCA
September 14, 2010, 08:43 PM
tirón = jerk (as in a rapid movement)

Calling someone a 'jerk' has many connotations in English. You could mean it in a mild sense (you can even call your best friend a jerk without offending). Or you could mean it in the worst sense. What do you want to say?
There are several Spanish words, from mild to extremely vulgar, that will fit the bill.


it's along the lines of calling a friend a jerk, but when they've hurt you. so not just joking around, but something a little more serious. But definitely nothing vulgar. Something mild but that the person would know you were showing that they hurt you?

Rusty
September 14, 2010, 09:25 PM
All the words used for jerk, even the most mild that I know (tonto), can be considered offensive since they are all an insult to someone's intelligence.

If someone has hurt you, as in made you suffer, you can use hacer sufrir.
Me hiciste sufrir.
If they've hurt your feelings, you can use lastimar.
Me lastimaste.

Wait to see what others have to say.

poli
September 14, 2010, 09:36 PM
In Spain the term is gilipollas and it is commonly used, and just like jerk, only slightly vulgar. In Latin America, I haven't heard a similar term with the same connotation, but necio means foolish and that may be close enough.

ookami
September 14, 2010, 11:13 PM
I bealive that it depends on the way you say it. For me "idiota", "estúpido", "tonto" and the most used here (a regional one) "boludo", are quite mild, unless you want expressly to make them sound strong. For RAE those aren't vulgar words, so I will use them as a synonym of jerk.

Another one can be "pendejo", but for us (Argentina) that isn't much(???) as the insult you're looking for, because we use it to call adolescents and children in a vulgar or coloquial way.

sosia
September 15, 2010, 02:49 AM
choose one, depending on the context
eres muy vulgar
eres un bruto
eres tonto de remate
eres un gilipollas/pendejo
but if you want to say about the "prior action" is
eso ha sido muy vulgar
eso ha sido muy bruto
eso es de gilipollas

saludos :D

AngelicaDeAlquezar
September 15, 2010, 04:28 AM
Adding to what has been said:

"Idiota" and "estúpido" are definitely insults, and on that line, there are a thousand words that can be used for that, as ookami and sosia have listed.
If it is a man and you mean he's usually rude, ignorant, inconsiderate, "patán" is a good word for it, but the one to whom it will be adressed may take it as an insult.

If you only want to tell someone that did something that has slightly offended you, you can use "grosero", "majadero", "pelado" (the last one only in Mexico, I think). ("Eres un grosero".)


As for the translation of "jerk" as a verb, "tirón" in the sense of "to pull" and "sacudir" in the sense of "to shake" could be suitable words. :)

chileno
September 15, 2010, 05:46 AM
Mainly, it isn't what's being said what's really important, but how it is being said. :)

NiCACHiCA
September 15, 2010, 09:02 AM
¡Gracias a TODOS por su ayuda! :)

JPablo
September 15, 2010, 03:02 PM
Well, and in Spain you can also say "Eres un capullo" (similar to "dickhead/asshole" you name it.) It always depends on context and how it is proffered.

Munh
September 17, 2010, 02:41 PM
In (Argentine) Spanish:

Turro: somebody who did something for his own benefit, even if it hurts you. It's not an offensive word, if you knew the person, he or she will not be offended. It's an impolite word for unknown people. It may sound funny sometimes, depends the age (you can't call your granny "turra", but you can call your uncle "turro").
- He told your girlfriend that you were laughing at her sister.
- What a "turro"!


Bad Language:
Forro: slang for "Condom". If a person uses you as a condom is a FORRO. Like a useful idiot, the soldier who goes in front of the others soldiers just to be killed, he's used like a condom.

Sorete/Mierda: a turd. "Se caga en todos, es un sorete / He defecates us all, he's a sorete". It means your friend, is a really really bad friend.

spanishtogo
September 18, 2010, 07:55 PM
it's along the lines of calling a friend a jerk, but when they've hurt you. so not just joking around, but something a little more serious. But definitely nothing vulgar. Something mild but that the person would know you were showing that they hurt you?
I believe you can say: éres un idiota/estúpido or you also could say: éres un tonto/necio.

For example, if you want to say: You are a jerk for what you told my friend this morning I would say: Eres un idiota por lo que le dijíste a mi amigo/a ésta mañana.

I hope this helps, also it makes a difference in what part of Latin America you are since in different countries meanings might be a little different.

Suerte,

Henry

AngelicaDeAlquezar
September 20, 2010, 09:01 AM
Sorry, I corrected some spelling mistakes, to avoid confusion for Spanish learners:

I believe you can say: eres un idiota/estúpido or you also could say: eres un tonto/necio.

For example, if you want to say: You are a jerk for what you told my friend this morning I would say: Eres un idiota por lo que le dijiste a mi amigo/a esta mañana.

CrOtALiTo
September 20, 2010, 09:12 PM
Then closing the thread, the word Jerk is definitely considered stupid and idiot.

Can I use that word in modern English?

poli
September 21, 2010, 05:20 AM
Yes, it is a commonly used term, but is a little bit impolite.

CrOtALiTo
September 22, 2010, 07:54 PM
Yes Poli.

I guess that I shouldn't use that word when I'm speaking with someone, as you have told me, that sound very impolite and well just I need to speak correctly instead of bad way.

I'm grateful with opportune answer it.

poli
September 22, 2010, 08:33 PM
Yes Poli.

I guess that I shouldn't use that word when I'm speaking with someone, as you have told me that it sounds very impolite and well just I need to speak correctly instead of a bad way.

I'm grateful for your answer.

Es buen consejo no usar esa palabra hasta que te pongas más familiar
con el idioma y la persona con quien hablas especialmente si diriges
la palabra jerk a esa persona.