Una pila o una batería

[BobRitter]

The following was posted in an Ask.com forum so there must be be some serious differences to be aware of.

"In a shop in Spain I asked for a batería for my hearing aid. The assistant had a laugh and then advised that I should find una pila."

Pila has quite a few definitions other than battery so???

[aleCcowaN]

In some countries "bateria" is any size battery. In other countries "bateria" is any large batteries, like those for cars, and "pila" is a small battery like those AAA. The secret is size and voltage, you have D size batteries that are "pilas" and batteries for laptops about the same size that are "baterías". One is 1.5Volt, the other one is, for instance, 11 Volts. In fact "una batería" is technologically -or it used to be- an arrange of "pilas" or individual cells. In English, (voltaic) pile has been left in the cold of encyclopedias while battery took its place. [In Spanish "batería" have several meanings, one of them being a set of elements that do the same or are used by the same person or system: batería -drums-, batería de cocina -set of pans, kettles, etc-, batería -set of "batteries" or cells arranged together to give a higher voltage-]

[Cuholvke]

"Batería" is correct but it is often used when referring to large batteries or those with specific designs (9V, car battery, notebook battery, etc.), one sided connectors. "Pila" refers to small batteries like C, AA, AAA and smaller ones, two side connectors.


Note to myself: refresh the page before posting. xD

[Nivar]

Regarding other meanings for "pila" and "batería".

Pila is a small fountain with a particular shape, a fountain with a concave basin, usually standing over a stone foot. Therefore, you would say: "La plaza de la pila". (The square that has the fountain).

You can talk about "Una pila de libros". What would mean literally a pile of books. A set up of books one on top of the other.

Pila can also be, "Una pila de lavar" the place were one used to clean the clothes within the home, before we had washing machines.

Una pila de cosas, is also an expression to represent quantity. Accumulation.

We also say: "Una pila bautismal", which is the "baptismal font located in the church where usually children are baptized".

Regarding the word "batería". It is a word with certain military uses.

Una batería, today, can be a few lined cannons or simply one cannon. In olden days, it was a fortified place which had some cannons. Usually reinforced areas of the defensive wall which did not have the category of a fortress, and where cannons were displayed.

Una batería today, in the Spanish army, is the sum up of sordiers that form the basic unit of the artillery arm, usually under the comand of a captain.

Una batería de cocina is certain sum up of casseroles.

[Perikles]

This is rather odd, because pile (L.pila, pile of stones) and battery (from Fr. battre, a collection of cannons) both mean an arrangement or collection of something. Neither word relates specifically to the voltaic cell, but means a collection of these to get a larger voltage than that of one cell. So in English we use battery incorrectly for a 'battery' of 1.5 volts, and Spanish uses pila incorrectly for the same, because there is only one cell for that voltage. For any higher voltage, both words are correct (if you think two of something can be a collection).

[aleCcowaN]

Again -and let me know if this contradicts what I said before -, pila is the unit -be it a cell, a voltaic pile or a matrix of cells- batería is the arrange of pilas created to achieve certain voltage with some technical purpose. I doesn't relate to the stacking of elements or lack thereof, it relates to the chronological evolution of Spanish. DRAE -as conservative and tardy (and ignorant) as it is in technological matters- had these words in the following editions:

1869 ---> pila. Fis. Aparato que sirve para desenvolver la electricidad, mediante el contacto de cuerpos de distinta naturaleza, como la de Volta y otras más modernas.
1884 ---> batería eléctrica. Fis. Reunión de varias pilas, que, comunicándose entre sí, producen grande acumulación de electricidad.

So, Bob, asking a batería for a hearing aid sounds overkilling and very uncomfortable, what should be a warning about false friends and false cognates in our languages, because it causes funny situations, like being thrown out and banned from a librería because you went to read a whole book there.

[BobRitter]

Thanks. Pila little ones, batería bigger ones.

[ookami]

To make it simple, lets use some images.
Here, 99% of the time (unless you are talking with someone unconvencional and trapped in the past) when you say pila, you are refering to:

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or watch pilas:

And when you talk about baterias, you are reffering to all the things left. Let's say, laptop's battery, cellphone's baterry, camera's baterry, car's battery, etc.:

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Nowadays, there are baterias that are really small, even near pila's size, so I wouldn't say that pilas are the little ones and baterias the bigger ones.

[Tomisimo]

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN

In some countries "bateria" is any size battery. In other countries "bateria" is any large batteries, like those for cars, and "pila" is a small battery like those AAA.

For the sake of completeness, in some areas you can also use "acumulador" for car batteries.

[aleCcowaN]

Originally Posted by Tomisimo

For the sake of completeness, in some areas you can also use "acumulador" for car batteries.

Yes, for those rechargeable power batteries. Used in some countries, it was almost reserved for car and truck batteries, but nowadays it is used again everywhere in a context of solar power:

pila recargable ---> small rechargeable battery
batería recargable ---> small rechargeable battery, in those countries where only "batería" is used
una batería (the big ones, or the high voltage ones) is supposed to be rechargeable by definition, though it is not necessarily truth all the time.
acumulador ---> rechargeable power batteries, like those in cars, trucks, submarines, diesel locomotives and residential solar power arrangements, often acumuladores, and even batería de acumuladores (battery arrangement)

[Jueperra]

Hola!
Soy nuevito aquí. Anduve surfeando para encontrar una version oficial de lo que es una pila versus una batería, y al cabo de casi una hora encontré este sitio. No pude resistir y me registré!

La cantidad de explicaciones que encontré en mi senda es verdaderamente fantástica, y en su mayoría estas explicaciones son increiblemente creativas, sin embargo el 99.6% MFT.

Pido disculpas por la falta de terminología técnica, pero mucha agua ha corrido debajo del proverbial puente desde el año que comencé a estudiar Electricidad en la Escuela Industrial de Mar del Plata.

La diferencia fundamental entre PILA y BATERÍA es muy simple:
- Una PILA es un elemento blablabla capaz de generar 1.5 voltios.
- Una BATERIA es una colección de estos elementos (pilas) conectados en serie.
Sorry for the disappointment.

En Inglés el término PILE (PILA) no se usa en público. ¿La razón?
Bueh! PILES es un término slang (lunfardo?) que significa hemorroides.
Imagínense entrando a un supermercado para preguntar: 'Do you have piles?'

Así que el término general es BATTERY, ya sea una pila de 1.5V o una batería de 9V.



@ BobRitter

Dear me!
I know for a fact Ask.com will accept to say just about anything.
"In a shop in Spain I asked for a batería for my hearing aid. The assistant had a laugh and then advised that I should find una pila."

Well my friend ... "In a shop in Spain ... a local inhabitant walks into a jewelry store to buy a large $5.00 alarm clock, and asks the salesman for the little SWATCH wristwatch as a gift."

@ ookami

"Nowadays, there are baterias that are really small, even near pila's size, so I wouldn't say that pilas are the little ones and baterias the bigger ones. "
You're spoiling BobRitter's fun.

Dear ookami

Your English is good, and as Mark Twain would say:
"I have no respect for a man who can spell a word only one way."
... or
"Anyone who can only think of one way to spell a word obviously lacks imagination." ... or something to that effect.

baterry, battery

[Elaina]

Una bateria también puede ser (drums or a set of drums)......

Right?

[Rusty]

Yes, see post #2. It's mentioned there.