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¿Eres otra persona al hablar otro idioma?

 

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¿Eres otra persona al hablar otro idioma?

¿Do you change your personality when you speak another language?
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¿Do you change your personality when you speak another language?
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Antes pensaba que la personalidad cambia cuando hablamos otros idiomas
pero ahora pienso que no. Es las circustáncias que cambian. Por ejemplo:
Hablo español, pero como cualquiera persona que mira a los foros se nota mi español en es perfecto. Sin embargo, hay latinoamericanos que miran como si fuera un niño prodigio. Me alaban diciendo "que bueno hablas" o" ¿de donde eres no hablas como un americano."
Es claro que hablo inglés mejor que español, pero nadie me complimenta en mi modo natural de hablar ingles. No soy ningun niño prodígio en los ojos de mis propios campatriotas aunque ellos tambien son capaz de decir "Oh, I wish I could speak Spanish like you". Por esa razón, el ambiente hispano es más agradable para y mi personalidad parece differente pero en realidad soy lo que soy y nada más.
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Quizas un poco

Digo que sí es cierto que percibo de una manera un poco distinta si leo o converso en español o en ingés. No sé si se trata tanto de un cambio de personalidad como de la percepción. Si leo una traducción de una novela, no es lo mismo si la leo en el idioma original, y me afectan de otra manera emocionalmente.

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Cuando hablas una lengua distinta, "saboreas" más las palabras.
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Cuando hablas una lengua distinta, "saboreas" más las palabras.
saludos

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Lo que dices es ciertamente la verdad. En mi caso el español me enriqueció mi vocabulario y conocimiento de la gramática. De repente me puse conciente de la historia de las palabras --cuales tienen origenes latines, alemanes,etc.

Gracias Sosia, El Danés y David y otros por si deciden felicitarme
en este dia tan monumental en mi vida.
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Bueno, para mi depende lo que estoy haciendo. Si en el transcurso de mi día estoy interpretando algo muy serio me poso diferente a que si es algo de rutina.

Cuando se usan palabras que aunque sé interpretarlas no estoy muy segura del significado estoy más alerta o en guardia.

Disfruto el hablar más el español porque al hablarlo es como un requisito el usar las manos y hacer müecas y movimientos. Es más interesante y las expresiones son mas fuertes.

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Lo que dices es ciertamente la verdad. En mi caso el español me enriqueció mi vocabulario y conocimiento de la gramática. De repente me puse conciente de la historia de las palabras --cuales tienen origenes latines, alemanes,etc.

Gracias Sosia, El Danés y David y otros por si deciden felicitarme
en este dia tan monumental en mi vida.
Bueno como has predicho que te íbamos a felicitar, aquí va la mía. Congrats on reaching this impressive milestone.
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¿Do you change your personality when you speak another language?
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I think so. Even if it doesn't make sense, I feel more like myself when I speak English...This world is full of weird people...
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Guys, In my case, I've changed in my life if I know English, well it'll be because still I don't know to speak the English, but I know that promt, I will can do it, I don't change only I know to read more things in English, I know things that another people doesn't know, I'm happy know a little of English, I'm happy with understanding you as you write and as you speak your native language, I need learn the English as faster as I can do it, I need know what say the people American or another contry where speak them English, now, daily I use widely the idiom with us, and I like write the language, but I continue being the same person of all my life, I believe that a person doesn't chages only because knows a language distintic to the native language known, I believe that if a person change only because knows a language that other person couldn't know, that person is bad in your way to think, at least I imagine it, but I know what the persons isn't so with the people that doesn't knows English or another language whenever you feel that you are diferent think, you are learning a language too, and you started of the same form, you without know nothing about a language wished.

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[quote=CrOtALiTo;14347]Guys, In my case, I've changed in my life knowing English. I don't know to speak the English, but I know that if prompted, I will can do it. I haven't changed,but I know how to read more things in English. I know things that other people don't know. I'm happy to know a little English. I'm happy with understanding you as you write and as you speak your native language. I need learn English as fast as I can do it. I need to know how Americans people frome other English speaking countries speak English. Now, daily I use I use the English language with you daily, and I like write the language, but I continue being the same person of all my life. I believe that a person doesn't change only because he knows another language separate from his native language. I believe that if a person changes only because he knows a language that other people don't know, that person is bad in a way. At least I imagine it that way,(Lo siguiente no entiendo, pero si quiere clarifarlo lo puedo correjir). but I know what the persons isn't so with the people that doesn't knows English or another language whenever you feel that you are diferent think, you are learning a language too, and you started of the same form, you without know nothing about a language wished.

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En realidad no somos gente distinta cuando hablamos un otro idioma, pero
el estudio de idiomas nos cambia porque aprendemos.
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Antiguo August 19, 2008, 10:23 PM
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Thanks Poli for your corrections, I haven't changed in my life, only I have learnt more things as example, I know a new language.
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Thanks Poli for your corrections, I haven't changed in my life, only I have learnt more things as example, I know a new language.
I still think a language can change your life if you really love it. As Poli said, it changes us because we learn.Apart from that, a language is not an isolated entity, it's part of a culture and a way of life.
I think I've already told you this (scratched record) but I started reading in English when I was 18 and since then I think I have read only one more book in Spanish and a few in French. I know my attitude is a bit extreme, but this is who I am.
When I'm speaking English I pronounce Spanish names (Antonio, Madrid) with an accent and I assure you it's not a pose. It's simply easier.
Crotalito, I don't mean by this that I am better or worse than somebody who cannot speak English. And I think I understand the learning process (to a certain extent) because I've been trying to learn German on and off for several years and so far I haven't been able to.
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¿Do you change your personality when you speak another language?
http://www.electronicafacil.net/cien...icle14559.html
Really interesting topic, Sosia. Ta. (I do mean it).
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María José, I understand you, it's the unit that change, what can I understand you, but in my person, I'm the same person, not another person, of course I'm a person that know another language distintic to my native language, I don't believe what the language can changing you, on the contrary, we know to speak other language, it help us to understand to more people in the world, it help us to can speak with more persons interestering of another countries, I haven't much time learning this language as you have to doing, but the time what I have, it have been sufficient of understand people new to me, I've met new people, I don't meet you, but I write you all the time in this website, it's daily, I have used widely this language, so times, when I have to write in Spanish, the letters I write them in English, unintentionally, then only I have changed in that point, and not in other thing, the change of the person is only in his way to think and learn more things new about the languages, in that point if I believe there is a change.

I hope you are all well today.
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That's amazing Maria Jose

That you have only read in English (except for one book). I have been trying to only read in Spanish, but I have read some English too. I actually agree with you that learning a language really well can change the way you think (are) as a person. It's a really neat phenomenon and a little hard to explain until you experience it. You are not weird at all. Or maybe we both are weird together.
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Un poco tarde... pero Felicidades Poli!

Cuando hablo otro idioma, no cambio. Soy la misma persona. Pero yo creo que el comportamiento de uno (no la personalidad) sí puede cambiar mientras habla en otro idioma. Digo esto porque una de las metas de un buen aprendiz del idioma es que trata de imitar los hablantes nativos para tener mejor pronunciación, intonación etc, y al hacer eso, cambias tu comportamiento y tratas de ser un poco más como los hablantes nativos del idioma que quieres hablar.

Muy interesante el artículo!
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María José, I understand you, it's the unit that change, what can I understand you, but in my person, I'm the same person, not another person, of course I'm a person that know another language distintic to my native language, I don't believe what the language can changing you, on the contrary, we know to speak other language, it help us to understand to more people in the world, it help us to can speak with more persons interestering of another countries, I haven't much time learning this language as you have to doing, but the time what I have, it have been sufficient of understand people new to me, I've met new people, I don't meet you, but I write you all the time in this website, it's daily, I have used widely this language, so times, when I have to write in Spanish, the letters I write them in English, unintentionally, then only I have changed in that point, and not in other thing, the change of the person is only in his way to think and learn more things new about the languages, in that point if I believe there is a change.

I hope you are all well today.
I understand you, even though I don't share your opinion (not totally, at least).
I hope you are well too.
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Un poco tarde... pero Felicidades Poli!

Cuando hablo otro idioma, no cambio. Soy la misma persona. Pero yo creo que el comportamiento de uno (no la personalidad) sí puede cambiar mientras habla en otro idioma. Digo esto porque una de las metas de un buen aprendiz del idioma es que trata de imitar los hablantes nativos para tener mejor pronunciación, intonación etc, y al hacer eso, cambias tu comportamiento y tratas de ser un poco más como los hablantes nativos del idioma que quieres hablar.

Muy interesante el artículo!
Creo que se te ha cruzado un cable, David... Querías escribir entonación.
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That you have only read in English (except for one book). I have been trying to only read in Spanish, but I have read some English too. I actually agree with you that learning a language really well can change the way you think (are) as a person. It's a really neat phenomenon and a little hard to explain until you experience it. You are not weird at all. Or maybe we both are weird together.
Thanks, Marsopa. You are right, we might both be weird, but 'good weird'...
You know, I have this friend, who says she doesn't find it strange (and she is not very interested in languages). She also says that you are what you read and she's right to a certain extent...I realize very often I live more in my books and TV shows than in real life (and of course they are all American or English...), but at the same time they help me to get new perspectives on life and get nearer to other peoples, and even understand those I know and love better.Does that happen to you too?
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Yes, Maria Jose Why do you aren't agree with me.? good at least in some part of my own post you aren't agree with it right.
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