Hacer Pregunta

Crear un tema
Retroceder   Foros para el aprendizaje de inglés y español > Otros Idiomas > Otros Idiomas
Registrarse Ayuda Comunidad Calendario Temas de Hoy Buscar PenpalsTraductor


Want to learn Chinese? :)

 

Siendo los amantes de idiomas que somos... Un lugar para hablar de y escribir en idiomas que no sean inglés y español.


Respuesta
 
Herramientas Desplegado
  #21  
Antiguo October 31, 2008, 03:20 PM
Avatar de Planet hopper
Planet hopper Planet hopper no está en línea
Pearl
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Oct 2008
Ubicación: Kuwait suburbia
Mensajes: 386
Primera Lengua: Irish-Canadian English and Andalusian Spanish.
Planet hopper is on a distinguished road
I used to hear it like that in China, I lived in Dalian, Qingdao and Zhenjiang (near Nanjing), total six years. Only the first -e. Ask baba or mama, they will know
Responder Con Cita
   
Quita esta publicidad al registrarte con una cuenta gratuita en Tomísimo.
  #22  
Antiguo October 31, 2008, 03:57 PM
Avatar de Rusty
Rusty Rusty está en línea ahora
Señor Speedy
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Aug 2007
Ubicación: USA
Mensajes: 11,337
Primera Lengua: American English
Rusty has a spectacular aura aboutRusty has a spectacular aura about
A lo mejor me meto donde no me llaman, but maybe Jessica was only trying to say that the spelling of the word (albeit the romanized spelling) shouldn't be changed to reflect the difference in pronunciation during normal (or faster than normal) conversation.
In American English we often pronounce 'want to' as 'wanna'. You'll even see it written that way if the colloquial pronunciation is being emphasized by the writer, but that doesn't change the fact that there really are two words. Every learner of English is taught that there are two words and the proper way to say the two.
The way we really say them is another lesson.

Written: I want to go with you.
Pronounced: I wanna go wi thya.
(There are other variations, of course.)
Responder Con Cita
  #23  
Antiguo October 31, 2008, 04:02 PM
Avatar de Planet hopper
Planet hopper Planet hopper no está en línea
Pearl
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Oct 2008
Ubicación: Kuwait suburbia
Mensajes: 386
Primera Lengua: Irish-Canadian English and Andalusian Spanish.
Planet hopper is on a distinguished road
You are right, Rusty.
However, pinyin (romanisation of chinese) is extremely irregular and taken as something childish to use. No shops or papers would display pinyin, only the most cosmopolitan cities do so on traffic signs.
Pinyin had 3 main versions before 1949, mostly coming from scholars in Hong Kong.
After 1949, the CCPC reviewed pinyin FIVE times, producing only confusion on that field.
Examples:
Pekin-Beijing
Mao Tse Dong-Mao Ze Dong
Responder Con Cita
  #24  
Antiguo October 31, 2008, 04:14 PM
Avatar de Rusty
Rusty Rusty está en línea ahora
Señor Speedy
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Aug 2007
Ubicación: USA
Mensajes: 11,337
Primera Lengua: American English
Rusty has a spectacular aura aboutRusty has a spectacular aura about
Thanks for your explanation. We've all wondered, I'm sure, how Peking and Beijing, two radically different 'standard' spellings, could possibly have the same pronunciation. How close is Beijing to the actual pronunciation, and are there tone markers?

I know that hao sounds like how. Does the last syllable of pengyou sound like you (yoo), or is it said like the American pronunciation of yo?
Responder Con Cita
  #25  
Antiguo October 31, 2008, 04:26 PM
Avatar de Planet hopper
Planet hopper Planet hopper no está en línea
Pearl
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Oct 2008
Ubicación: Kuwait suburbia
Mensajes: 386
Primera Lengua: Irish-Canadian English and Andalusian Spanish.
Planet hopper is on a distinguished road
The case of Peking-Beijing comes because the Taiwanese (pre-49 pinyin) accent sounds like Peking, but Beijing is the mainland sound of the word. I know how Beijing sounds, can't remember which tones. Bei means north and jing means capital, so Nanjing is the southern capital, Dongjing (eastern capital) is Tokyo. Xijing does not exist (not that I know), west entails foreigner, out of the country.

Hao sounds more like the english haul without the final l. The you in pengyou sounds like a short o. Pronouncing chinese is easier from Spanish phonetics, the quality of vowels is not so intricate as English vowels.
Responder Con Cita
  #26  
Antiguo October 31, 2008, 05:59 PM
Avatar de Jessica
Jessica Jessica no está en línea
...
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Jun 2008
Ubicación: PA
Mensajes: 8,187
Primera Lengua: English, Chinese
Jessica is on a distinguished road
lol planet hopper I think you know more Chinese than me!! ^^
Responder Con Cita
  #27  
Antiguo November 04, 2008, 03:40 PM
Amanpour Amanpour no está en línea
Ruby
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Jul 2008
Ubicación: Somewhere I´m very comfortable.
Mensajes: 47
Primera Lengua: English
Amanpour is on a distinguished road
My son is learning Chinese, maybe I´ll suggest he come in here and have a chat with whoever the teacher is.
Responder Con Cita
  #28  
Antiguo November 04, 2008, 03:57 PM
Avatar de Jessica
Jessica Jessica no está en línea
...
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Jun 2008
Ubicación: PA
Mensajes: 8,187
Primera Lengua: English, Chinese
Jessica is on a distinguished road
I am the "teacher"....
Responder Con Cita
  #29  
Antiguo November 04, 2008, 04:56 PM
Avatar de CrOtALiTo
CrOtALiTo CrOtALiTo no está en línea
Diamond
 
Fecha de Ingreso: May 2008
Ubicación: Mérida, Yucatán
Mensajes: 11,686
Primera Lengua: I can understand Spanish and English
CrOtALiTo is on a distinguished road
Jessica you are the Chinese's teacher, then also you can to teach me Chinese, I'd like to learn that language, because I don't know I love the languages though, if you can to give me particular class, I'll be very grateful wit you if you are my teacher in a feature.

Greetings.
__________________
We are building the most important dare for my life and my family feature now we are installing new services in telecoms.
Responder Con Cita
  #30  
Antiguo November 04, 2008, 05:44 PM
Avatar de Jessica
Jessica Jessica no está en línea
...
 
Fecha de Ingreso: Jun 2008
Ubicación: PA
Mensajes: 8,187
Primera Lengua: English, Chinese
Jessica is on a distinguished road
okay I will teach you some Chinese I will teach you the basics first...it's kind of hard but at least you should know how to say the greetings...
Responder Con Cita
Respuesta

Etiquetas
chinese

 

Link to this thread
URL: 
HTML Link: 
BB Code: 

Normas de Publicación
No puedes crear nuevos hilos
No puedes enviar respuestas
No puedes adjuntar archivos
No puedes editar tus mensajes
Código BB está habilitado
Los iconos gestuales están habilitado
Código [IMG] está habilitado
Código HTML está deshabilitado
Normas del Sitio

Temas Similares
Tema Autor de Tema Foro Respuestas Último mensaje
[chino] Spoken Chinese Catyjane Otros Idiomas 7 March 30, 2009 07:31 PM
Chinese Arabic or Russian? laker Otros Idiomas 3 March 30, 2009 07:06 PM
To Learn Graziella Práctica y Tareas 11 April 13, 2008 12:08 PM
I want to learn. Sugar1 El vocabulario 5 October 29, 2007 11:02 AM


La franja horaria es GMT -6. Ahora son las 07:31 PM.

Foro powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

X