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Old July 23, 2019, 10:00 AM
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¿Cuánto tiempo vas a quedar en Roma?
¿Cuánto tiempo te vas a quedar en Roma?

¿Cuánto tiempo vas a seguir enojado conmigo?
¿Cuánto tiempo te vas a seguir enojado conmigo?

Esto es probablemente demasiado avanzada para que preocuparme, pero me parece muy interesante.

Como siempre, gracias.
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Irse usually means to leave, although it has other usages as well.. Ahora me voy means I'm going (leaving) now.

So, in your examples, you would do best to not use the reflexive.
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¿Cuánto tiempo vas a quedar en Roma?()***
¿Cuánto tiempo te vas a quedar en Roma?

¿Cuánto tiempo vas a seguir enojado conmigo?
¿Cuánto tiempo te vas a seguir enojado conmigo?
with the meaning

...stay in Rome
...stay mad at me

***maybe meaning "... going to be stationed in Rome" unless you meant to use "permanecer" instead of "quedar", in which case it is correct.
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The sentences in question are using the 'ir + a + infinitivo (el infinitivo del verbo principal)' structure and the pronoun 'se' is tied to the verbo principal.
So, the question is whether quedarse, in the first sentence, is more appropriate than quedar, and, in the second sentence, whether seguirse is more appropriate than seguir.

quedar = remain, be left with, meet up
quedarse = stay (in one place)
How long are you staying in Rome? The futuro próximo form must be either 'te vas a quedar' or 'vas a quedarte' (the pronoun can be placed before the conjugated form of ir or it can remain suffixed to the infinitive). Without the pronoun, the sentence doesn't make sense.

seguir = continue (in this case)
seguirse = follow (as in infer (it follows that))
How long are you going to stay mad at me? The futuro próximo form must be 'vas a seguir'. It doesn't make sense to use the pronominal form of the verb.

Update: I see that Alec also provided the same answer.

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No di cuenta de los verbos quedar/quedarse y seguir/seguirse transitivo y reflexivo. Ahora entiendo. Gracias como siempre.
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