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Quick question about haber + past participle
Consider the following sentence (marked correct on my homework):
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Because "dicho" and "pintado" are participles, and participles have no gender nor plural in Spanish [what is also true for adverbs]
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Because "haber + past participle" is a conjugation by itself, so past participle remains unchanged.
Nosotros hemos nacido - we've been born Yo he cambiado - I have changed Ellas han venido - they have come María ha cantado - María has sung Vosotros habéis entrado - you have come in Not the same case when past participle works as an adjective. Las sillas pintadas - the painted chairs Los árboles cortados - the cut down trees La niña educada - the polite girl El auto vendido - the sold car When the past participle is a part of passive voice, it must also agree with gender and number: La casa ha sido pintada. - The house has been painted. Los perros han sido encerrados. - The dogs have been locked up. Las canciones han sido cantadas. - The songs have been sung. El cuarto ha sido decorado. - The room has been decorated.
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Oh okay, that makes a lot more sense now. Thanks for the clear explanation!
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i.e. they don't inflect
Last edited by Perikles; June 25, 2011 at 04:33 AM. Reason: Hadn't read Angelica's post, passive voice comments deleted |
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Yes, indeed!
I have forgotten the substantive verb "ser" -just a minor detail- and Spanish features of making passive constructions departing from any available material, where participles are not quite participles: han sido divididas (not "han sidas divididas") son divididos en dos grupos se los divide
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Just a remark that there is no reason why a participle after haber should inflect, hence your "han sidas" example, but ser and estar do require agreement. There is a parallel here in French, where active past tenses conjugated with avoir do not inflect, but those with e^tre do inflect. |
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