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Old June 28, 2020, 02:10 PM
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Haber de vs tener que


What is the rule of thumb for using these expressions? It's pretty obvious that haber de is a rare bird; where is it appropriate/indispensable?
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Old June 28, 2020, 09:22 PM
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I was taught that haber de is less imperative. I hear Spanish a lot, and rarely hear haber de used. By the way, hay que is pretty common, but when used it seems less didactic to me than than tener que.
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Old June 29, 2020, 01:44 AM
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Hay que is pretty common indeed. It looks like yet another take, though

Meanwhile, the only "real life" example of haber de I ever stumbled upon is this:

Y antes del amanecer la vida le han de quitar

I'm just trying to get the real taste of the words (life must be taken away?).
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Maybe not the most common, but I think I hear "Habías de <hacer algo>" with relative frequency.
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