Summer southern?

[aleCcowaN]

I was just watching a British TV programme about the Dakar Rally, and I think I heard "Summer southern" to refer the current season here in Argentina. Could it be that way instead of "southern Summer"?

[Rusty]

I would say 'southern summer', if the reference is the current season in Argentina.

[poli]

I term have heard for summer south of the equator is austral summer.
In the United States, southern summer is something people suffer through in places like New Orleans or San Antonio.

[mikemacabre]

I've never heard of southern summer. We call it a dry season. If you are referring to the heat and droughts we get.

When I hear southern summer I think of a nice getaway in like... South Carolina with good southern food and people with southern accents.

[aleCcowaN]

I heard "Summer southern" about the austral Summer (Southern Hemisphere's), and it was during a British program about the Dakar Rally.

Maybe it's a British thing

[poli]

I don't think it's a British thing. It may have been the speaker's attempt to explain his use of summer in frigid January (over Cancer) He may have said: summer (slight pause) southern --implying under Capricorn. This is not very good communication in English.

It's rare to hear the adjective after the noun in English in common speech.
In poetry you may hear it more (the night mysterious, my dreams delirious, the ocean blue, etc).The twentieth-century American songwriter and lyicist Cole Porter loved to place the adjective after the noun. I'm assuming it's because he was francophone, but maybe just because it's easier to rhyme that way. Anyway it does give English a certain je ne sais quoi.

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN

I heard "Summer southern" about the austral Summer (Southern Hemisphere's), and it was during a British program about the Dakar Rally.

Maybe it's a British thing

Poli is correct. This is not a British thing. He might have tried to avoid the expression 'austral Summer' which not many people would understand, and just failed. Anyway, it is quite wrong. I wonder how this came up, seeing that Dakar has a latitude of 14 degrees North.

[aleCcowaN]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Poli is correct. This is not a British thing. He might have tried to avoid the expression 'austral Summer' which not many people would understand, and just failed. Anyway, it is quite wrong. I wonder how this came up, seeing that Dakar has a latitude of 14 degrees North.

Thank you all.

Yes, I think Poli is correct. Maybe the voice said something like "Summer (southern)" but no pause was heard between both words".

The Dakar Rally started this year in Mar del Plata, that is some 38 degrees South, I think [And a nearly record of 38 degrees -Celsius, more than 100 Fahrenheit- yesterday afternoon]

[Perikles]

Originally Posted by aleCcowaN

The Dakar Rally started this year in Mar del Plata, that is some 38 degrees South, I think [And a nearly record of 38 degrees -Celsius, more than 100 Fahrenheit- yesterday afternoon]

Ah - that was rather stupid of me, making the assumption that the Dakar rally was somehow connected with Dakar.

(Yes, now I've googled its history. It should be renamed the NowhereNearDakar Rally)

[aleCcowaN]

Yes, it looks like "Dakar" is used today more as an adjective meaning "it includes adventure" or "extreme conditions".

By the way, climate is "out of order" as we are burning here, latitudes 30 to 45 degrees -6 Chilean firefighters were killed yesterday tackling wildfires- but rally's stage Fiambalá-Copiapó (27 degrees south) was canceled owing to the heavy rain and snow fall in a semi-desert area.