Street names
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Tomisimo
May 06, 2008, 05:43 PM
In another thread (http://forums.tomisimo.org/showthread.php?p=7758&postcount=27) Sosia asked about Wisteria Lane, if it is a common street name, and I got to thinking. Streets in the US are often named after flowers, trees, and sometimes famous people (local businesspeople, human rights leaders etc). Often in a city, streets going one way (eg. east-west) will have names, and the streets going the other direction (north-south) will be numbered.
In Mexico, numbered streets are almost non-existant AFAIK, and street names are almost always named after past presidents and political/historical figures, or significant dates in Mexican history.
Some common Mexican street names:
Presidents and Political figures
José María Morelos
Lázaro Cárdenas
Miguel Hidalgo
Pino Suárez
Venustiano Carranza
Vicente Guerrero
Luis Ponce
Álvaro Obregón
Benito Juárez
Emiliano Zapata
Francisco I Madero
Almost every city or town in Mexico has a Morelos, Juárez, Hidalgo etc street.
Common Dates
1 de mayo
5 de mayo
16 de septiembre
7 de febrero
21 de marzo
20 de noviembre
It's interesting to note with the streets that are named after dates that they are feminine. If you're talking about Benito Juárez' birthday, you'd say el 21(veintiuno) de marzo, but if you're talking about the street, you la 21(veintiuna) de marzo.
So... what about other countries? What are the street-naming conventions?
sosia
May 07, 2008, 05:03 AM
Spain:
At the beginnin the streets were named for it's importance "Via mayor" or simply with the name of the next town it headed "Calle de Ronda" "Calle Sevilla".
Later with names of the proper artisans (usually all the artisans worked in the same street "Calle pellejeros", "Calle zapatería"...
Then usually were famous people (king, writers, artist, historic politicians ..)
Now we are building a lot and we have districts with "tematic" names (all the streets have flowers names, tree names river names,..)
But I have never found a street with only a number "Calle 45". Sound very odd, like you have nobody to honour.
greetings :D
poli
May 07, 2008, 06:34 AM
I dont know why it took me so long to figure out that Gran Via translates
directly to Broadway
Tomisimo
May 07, 2008, 06:45 AM
Another common one is Main St. and First St. (1st St.) in the US. This would be the main street that passes through the town.
Elaina
May 07, 2008, 07:43 AM
Sometimes an avenue or street will be named after the state....i.e. New Mexico Avenue, California Street or is it Boulevard(?), etc.
Having streets that are numbered are a good idea to avoid getting lost albeit boring as Sosia says. But if you are in a new city and know that streets are numbered it is practically impossible to get lost, don't you think? Unless you are in New York where they have streets AND avenues that are numbered. I guess that's why they have so many taxis.....
Elaina:)
MonteChristo
May 07, 2008, 07:58 AM
Here in this part of California the streets are numbered; east and west are 10th street 11 street and north and south are 10 avenue 11th avenue and so on. The even have 10 1/2 Ave and 9 1/4 ave
A lot of new neighborhoods will pick a theme and use it to name all of the streets. for example birds; sparrow, robin, wren, jay, hawk etc.
Rusty
May 07, 2008, 10:50 AM
Many towns/cities that I'm familiar with use the numbered streets and avenues format MonteChristo described.
It is virtually impossible to get lost in many towns/cities in Utah, if they mimic the street grid plan of Salt Lake City. The grid has a center and nearly all the streets extend at right angles north, south, east or west of it. Each street in the grid is designated by a number, in the hundreds, and a compass direction from the center of the grid.
The first street south of the center point, running east and west of center, is called 100 South. The next block to the south is 200 South, and so on. The first street east of the center point, running north to south, is called 100 East. The next block to the east is 200 East, and so on.
So, if you live at 296 South 300 East, you live on the street located three blocks east of the grid's center, and almost three blocks south of it (296 is your address on 300 East, your street's name). And, since house numbers that end in an even number are located on the east side of the street, it is likely that this address is assigned to the last house on 300 East, just before it intersects with 300 South street (heading south).
Sometimes other names are assigned to prominent streets within the grid, but they are also known by their numbered name.
Elaina
May 07, 2008, 11:51 AM
No offense Rusty but I think I'm lost!!:p
I'm glad I don't live at 296 South 300 East.
In the State of Wisconsin, in Milwaukee, they have numbered streets. Numbered streets run North and South only. There are no numbered avenues either. And if you're traveling towards Lake Michigan, you are traveling East. I think it helps to have a natural element to guide you also!
Elaina:rolleyes:
sosia
May 07, 2008, 02:52 PM
Use googlemaps, Live earth or a GPS. :D :D :D
It's more romantic with a name
Jane
May 07, 2008, 06:00 PM
No offense Rusty but I think I'm lost!!:p
I'm glad I don't live at 296 South 300 East.
Elaina:rolleyes:
Couldn´t agree less Elaina.:D
Tomisimo
May 07, 2008, 09:22 PM
Use googlemaps, Live earth or a GPS. :D :D :D
It's more romantic with a name
Como el Callejón del Beso en Guanajuato (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callejon_del_beso).
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Rusty
May 07, 2008, 10:27 PM
Gracias, David. A verdad, en las calles románticas, misteriosas, o de leyenda quiero perderme.
gatitoverde
May 08, 2008, 01:08 AM
The only problem with Salt Lake City is that the Grid system does fall through in places largely because the highly unusual topography of the city forces some compromises to be made. 9th and 7th East (900 and 700 East) do a weird number at one point as does 21st South. Also there are a number of roads that wind through the city and can't be given a numerical appellation due to their inconsistencies: Foothill Blvd., Vine St., Van Winkle, etc. An interesting note about Salt Lake is that it's the only city I've ever seen where Main St. and State St. run parallel, versus intersecting in the center of town. Another note is that every once in a while they will name one of the numbered streets. 3rd South (300 South) is now Broadway, for example, though everyone still calls it 3rd South.
In parts of St. Louis, where I was born and raised, the streets bear the names of trees or what-have-you, but in alphabetical order, which is very helpful.
sosia
May 08, 2008, 02:07 AM
It's a good idea tree streets in alfabetical order.
A lot of places in spain have "blind streets" -dead end/ only entry- called "salsipuedes"(sal-si-puedes, go-out-if-you-can)
saludos :D
Tomisimo
May 08, 2008, 07:33 AM
Yes, I've seen lots of cities where the avenues are numbered and the streets are named and in alphabetical order.
Sosia, I hadn't heard "salsipuedes" before now. I like it. :)
CrOtALiTo
September 10, 2008, 08:47 AM
Wha does mean to says him?
Rusty
September 10, 2008, 09:18 AM
This is a spammer, Crotalito, and can be ignored.
CrOtALiTo
September 10, 2008, 10:14 AM
Okis. partner.
ruby
September 12, 2008, 07:48 AM
In England each local council Employs somebody who names all the streets in that particular town or village or city, so you will often find in a particular area of the town names of trees for adjoining streets. names of flowers, etc. And sometimes in large cities you will get 2 streets with the same name but in different areas of the city. Very confusing !!!
In the village in spain some of the streets are named after previous mayors of the city, but i think they have to have died before they get that honour.!!
One of the streets is called 'El horno' - the oven - is this the correct translation ??
poli
September 12, 2008, 08:42 AM
The translation is correct. We can only guess the origin. Perhaps there was a well know bakery on that street--or a kiln.:thinking:
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