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ROBINDESBOIS
August 03, 2009, 04:52 AM
who can give me some equivalents for this stock phrase in ENglish?

Tomisimo
August 03, 2009, 09:26 AM
Can you give me an example of what it means and how you would use it in a sentence? I don't recall having heard this phrase before. A bit of research shows that it doesn't literally mean "without shame or glory". The main meaning I found was more like unimportant, unnoticed, completely normal, average etc.

La obra de teatro pasó por los escenarios sin pena ni gloria.
The play was incredibly average.

La película pasará a la historia sin pena ni gloria.
It was a completely forgettable movie.

ROBINDESBOIS
August 03, 2009, 09:33 AM
Excellent examples, also for books or entertainment shows.

poli
August 03, 2009, 09:38 AM
neither hot nor cold
so so (this term is also used among Latinamericans)

ROBINDESBOIS
August 03, 2009, 09:45 AM
That´s a differente one. No dar ni frío ni calor, no hacer ni fu ni fa, when something is indifferent to you. Is there a saying in English?