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laepelba
October 31, 2010, 10:08 AM
Un conjunto es contable o numerable si es finito. ;)

Did you say here that a set is "countable" if it is "finite"? I do not agree. The set of natural numbers is countable, AND it is infinite. Likewise the set of rational numbers. Likewise the set of positive, even numbers. And so on....

irmamar
October 31, 2010, 12:32 PM
Many years have passed since I studied 'teoría de conjuntos', but not all the infinite sets are countable, are they? The points of a straight line are not countable (son no contables). Rational or natural numbers set are countable, but not real numbers set (or I think so). :thinking: Well, you'll know better than I. ;) :)

laepelba
October 31, 2010, 12:34 PM
No, for example, the irrational numbers are both infinite AND uncountable. In fact, between any two natural numbers there are an uncountable and infinite number of irrational numbers. :D

irmamar
October 31, 2010, 12:41 PM
Thanks :). I should revise my rusty maths. :thinking: :)

laepelba
October 31, 2010, 03:20 PM
Nah - since when do you need to know the countability or non-countability of finite sets? :)

irmamar
November 01, 2010, 06:42 AM
I had to study hard maths and I liked them. But when I changed my degree (I was studying Computer Engineering) I forgot all that I studied so hard. So I think it must be somewhere in my brain and, when I'll finish my current degree, I want to go back with which I left (if I feel like then, of course). ;)

Perikles
November 01, 2010, 07:03 AM
I might get into trouble for this: :kiss:

I had to study hard for maths and I liked them it (singular). But when I changed my degree (I was studying Computer Engineering) I forgot all that I studied so hard. So I think it must be somewhere in my brain and, when I'll I (present) finish my current degree, I want to go back with which to the one I left (if I feel like it then, of course). ;)

Cloudgazer
November 01, 2010, 09:11 PM
Un conjunto es contable o numerable si es finito. ;)
Esto es verdad (por definición). :)

Did you say here that a set is "countable" if it is "finite"? I do not agree. The set of natural numbers is countable, AND it is infinite. Likewise the set of rational numbers. Likewise the set of positive, even numbers. And so on....
Fíjate en que Irma no dijiste "si y sólo si", es decir, "sii" o "iff", sólo dijiste "si". Un conjunto tiene que ser numerable si es finito. Su afirmación no dice nada acerca de las propiedades de los conjuntos infinitos, que pueden ser numerables o no, como nos has apuntado. :D

pjt33
November 02, 2010, 01:13 AM
I might get into trouble for this: :kiss:
I think the initial correction is wrong. I understood it rather as "I had to study advanced maths".

irmamar
November 02, 2010, 01:29 AM
My dear Cloud. Welcome back :kiss:

Yes, that '<=>' . How do you say "si y sólo si" in English? If and only if? :thinking:

Perikles, later I'll talk to you... seriously. :D :kiss:

Perikles
November 02, 2010, 02:49 AM
I think the initial correction is wrong. I understood it rather as "I had to study advanced maths".Ah yes - makes more sense.

. How do you say "si y sólo si" in English? If and only if? :thinking:".Yes - if and only if, shortened to iff amongst mathematicians (especially when using txt msgs.:rolleyes:)

Perikles, later I'll talk to you... seriously. :D :kiss::crazy::crazy: :rose:

laepelba
November 02, 2010, 02:52 AM
Yes, it's "if and only if", and he's most definitely correct about that. Your statement with the "if" is correct as stands. Wow - I've been teaching Algebra 1 for tooooooo long! :)

pjt33
November 02, 2010, 02:33 PM
:crazy::crazy: :rose:
Get your attributions right, sir!

:p

Perikles
November 02, 2010, 04:18 PM
Get your attributions right, sir!

:pOoops. How the hell did that happen? :o

laepelba
March 03, 2011, 04:48 AM
Would it be possible to add the following to the list of "fields":

Geometry
Analysis
Topology
Probability
Statistics
Discrete Mathematics
Number Theory
Arithmetic
Combinatorics
Differential Equations
Logic


Thanks!! :)

AngelicaDeAlquezar
March 03, 2011, 09:20 AM
That's too long to be done just like that. You can make the lists of the vocabulary you want to learn and then we'll be able to help you find the equivalents, so they'll be added to the tables. :)

Cloudgazer
March 03, 2011, 10:54 AM
Had a spare moment, so:

Geometría (la) = Geometry
Análisis (el) = Analysis
Topología (la) = Topology
Probabilidad (la) = Probability
Estadística (la) = Statistics
Matemática discreta (la) = Discrete Mathematics
Teoría de números (la) = Number Theory
Aritmética (la) = Arithmetic
Combinatoria (la) = Combinatorics
Ecuaciones diferenciales (las) = Differential Equations
Lógica (la) = Logic

AngelicaDeAlquezar
March 03, 2011, 12:33 PM
:D Thank you, Cloud... I thought she wanted to have vocabulary of each field added. ;)

I'll insert them later, when I have some spare time to format the tables. :)

laepelba
March 03, 2011, 06:23 PM
Thanks, both of you! Sorry I mis-stated my request, Malila. I definitely wouldn't have asked for vocabulary without specifying. The other day I found myself wanting to talk about the field of study of "Statistics" in general, and realized that I don't know the names of most of the fields of study within the umbrella of Mathematics when speaking Spanish. Thanks so much, Cloudy. :)

This comprehensive page of mathematical terms comes in very handy. I fully intend to add vocabulary to it from some lists that I have (especially Algebra vocabulary) when I have some free time......

Cloudgazer
March 04, 2011, 04:26 PM
No hay de qué. :)